Nacho Libre/The Lord's Chips

[00:00:00] Slide up the snack bar, grab a something to eat and watch another with slide up the snack bar Nacho wants to wrestle for. Did you not tell them that they were the Lord's cheaps?

Seasons greetings, and welcome once again to Cinema Snack Bar. I'm Rob Alley. And I'm Zeke Tucker. And we're here to talk about the movies you love and the foods that help shape them. Today we're taking a look at my first movie Pick, nacho Libre. Nacho Nacho. And we are snacking on the Lord's chips. Oh, the best kind.

We're going to be making homemade tortilla chips today, uh, which I'm so excited about. We'll take you through the recipe and we're gonna taste test deep fried chips versus baked chips in the second part of the show. So, I mean, I have, I have, [00:01:00] I have an idea of which one I'm gonna like better. Okay. You know, just cuz you know, it's hard to deep fry something and not like it.

I have a prediction to make and I don't know, I was gonna save this, but I'll just go ahead and make it. I am, I am expecting to be disappointed by the deep fried chips. Really? That's my expectation. Mine was the opposite. And I come from a thing where I was like, let's bake everything and make it better, whatever.

Uh, but I just, it's like adding butter to something. It it, I feel like deep frying things can't make them too much worse. I, I just feel like my, so my experience with chips is largely restaurant based. Okay. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And I, I think, I feel like there's some restaurant magic that we're not gonna be able to replicate.

Absolutely. So. Mm-hmm. We'll see. I, I mean, I know it's mostly just chips and oil and the process, but I think there's gonna be something that's off when, when we try to confront We'll, I hope so. I hope so. I hope I'm wrong. Okay. I want delicious chips. Yes. You know? Correct. I am like, I am like the priest at the beginning of the movie who's like, where's the flavor?

Where, where the spices, there's no flavor. So [00:02:00] stick around for all that. First, let's dive into Nacho Libre, uh, released in 2006, starring Jack Black as Ignacio slash Nacho. Nacho. Yeah. Uh, Anna de Reg as sister in Carac, and Hector Jimenez as esto slash you remember his real name? Steven Good. Steven, producer Whitney.

Thank you. Producer Whitney. Thank you. Uh, yeah, it's not even listed on his, on, on, uh, the actors on IMDB or anything like that. It's just Esto. Yeah. And I'm just like, okay, but what's his real name? Yeah. Basically it's Steven. Oh, that's how says it like Esteban. Okay. Yeah. Good job. So, and I assume, I assume.

Esto is Spanish skeleton. Skeleton. It's skeleton, okay. Yeah. Yeah, because that is the skinniest, maybe the skinniest person outside of Schindler's List. The skinniest person ever on film. Yes. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, I mean, purposefully skinny. Like, I wonder if they made him get a little skinnier, like, like, they were like, Hey, just don't eat for a few [00:03:00] days before we do this, just because we want it to be Esto.

Right? We really want it to be that we want people to be worried for your health. Yes, yes. You're gonna be, you're gonna get a a, a water IV on the side. Like after every take, you're gonna be getting intravenous, uh, nourishment. Um, the movie was filmed on location in Oaxaca, Mexico, written by Jared Hess, Jeru Hess, uh, writers of Napoleon Dynamite, and Mike White, who wrote School of Rock, uh, who also wrote, see if you pick up a pattern here, orange County.

Remember Orange County? I don't remember. Orange County, Jack Black and Colin Hanks. Okay. Um, and by the way, the production company name on this is a black and white production. Yes. Okay. Uh, he also wrote Pitch Perfect three and Oh yeah, he wrote the White Lotus. He created the white Lotus, which is blowing up huge right now.

I have not seen it yet, and I am excited to, I'm excited to watch it, but it's made, it's made Jennifer Coolidge into like a megastar. It has, it has. I've seen all of the memes that I see my entire explorer page. Is her, Jennifer Coolidge. I was gonna say [00:04:00] Jennifer Hess. I'm looking at Jared Hess's name, uh, is Jennifer Coolidge and her just being like, I'm awesome.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she just won a Golden Globe Yeah. For her role in the White Lotus, and she was on an Old Navy commercial. And lemme tell you, they're not just signing nobody's, you know? Yeah. That's not Old Navy. No, you don't. The, the Old Navy Christmas commercial spot is a highly coveted spot. Yes, it is.

Yes it is. Um, so yeah, Mike White created, you wouldn't, you would never think the guy that made Nacho Libre is also the guy that made the white Lotus. No, but. It's true. Mike White and I didn't realize Jared Hess also did Masterminds. Yes. Which I, and then I, okay. I looked at it and I was like, okay, masterminds, Napoleon Dynamite and Nacho Libre.

I get that. Yeah, I get that. And I just didn't know. And then he created another movie called Gentleman Broncos. Yeah. Gentleman Broncos. Okay. I haven't seen it, but based on these three movies, I was like, okay, well I'm gonna like it. It's one of those, it feels cult classic. Yeah. Maybe without being one. It's just one of those movies, so I'm gonna have to watch that next.

It uh, also stars, uh, what's his name from Napoleon [00:05:00] Dynamite. The lead from Napoleon Dynamite. Um, Oh, John header. John Header. Thank you. Good. Thank you. Producer, producer. Whitney, let me just say I'm already so glad we gave you a microphone this week because Wow. Coming through. Where's our fax checker? I am doubling your pay.

Um, according to imdb, the film was partly inspired by Fray Torment. Uh, that is Fryer Storm, aka a Reverend Sergio Gutierrez Beez. By the way, our Spanish pronunciation this week is just gonna be, I'm trying y'all, you're just gonna have to forgive us. We're just whites. Um, we will try our best. We are, but a, I feel like a fraud.

I'm like, Reverend Sergio Gutierrez Benitez. See, normally I feel that way, but I've started to just be like, I have to do it in the accent that it's done. So I'm gonna try. Is it more polite to at least try with the real accent? Please tell us. I don't know. I, I'm gonna try to do it with the real, real accent.

Rob, keep going with the white way. And we are going to. See who we are. Gonna see who is [00:06:00] the most offensive. Okay. Okay. And then we'll go the opposite way is the point we're trying to make. Yes, yes. Uh, so Reverend Sergio, let's go. Reverend Sergio, he was a Mexican priest who became a wrestler to raise money for his parish.

Right. Um, there's also a 1991 movie about it called In Spanish. Well, from Spanish it translates to the Man in the Golden Mask. Mm-hmm. Which is based on that story, which is, uh, kind of ironic because in this movie, the Big bad Guy wears a golden mask. Yes. The, the, the bad guy is the guy, the Golden Mask. Um, so yeah, that's great.

The score to this movie, uh, was by Danny Elman, which whoa, which surprised me. He's one of my favorites. It, it, there aren't to me. Like the hallmarks of a Danny Elfman score? No. No, there's not. I didn't, I, I didn't know enough about it to like, research who did the score for some reason. But he is my, like fa he's my favorite.

He's the one who does Yeah. He does all the Tim Burton stuff. Yes, yes. Like Batman, Beetlejuice. Mm-hmm. Um, PR presumably, uh, Edward Scissor hands. Yes. You know, all that stuff. And so there's [00:07:00] certain things that I expect, but maybe it's in combination with Danny Elman and Tim Burton. I expect a certain aesthetic maybe so with Danny, yeah.

Obviously he can do other things and this wouldn't have called for that sort of weird Right. You know, uh, soundtrack stuff. But the interesting thing about this soundtrack is, It's, it's credited or was credited for a long time as just Danny Elfman, but the original, uh, plan for this movie was to have Beck do the soundtrack.

Oh. And so it ends up with, there's a Beck song still on the soundtrack, and he did a lot of it, but then the, I think it was the studio came in and they didn't, they didn't want it. They didn't think it was gonna work, so they're like, no, we need to bring in like a legit score, man. Let's get Danny Elfa. So he comes in and does.

They end up using, I think about three quarters of Danny Elman's stuff and then sprinkling in some other stuff. And obviously there's just some songs and stuff like that, but one of Beck's songs is still in there. I think it's called Holy Man. Um, and Danny Elman score is in there. And the soundtrack has some of the other songs as well.

So it's sort of like, it's mostly credited to Danny Elman at this point, but [00:08:00] really, Beck kind of did the whole thing first and then the studio rejected it. That Religious Man song. I love that song. It sets the tone. And I, it just like when, when it started, I was like, oh, it had been years since I've seen this movie.

And it started and I went, oh, I remember that song perfectly. Yeah, I am, I am, I will. Religious man. And I just went, man, that it, it sets the tone for the whole thing. Yeah. Uh, it's just fantastic. I love the music. It was really playful throughout the entire. One of the great things I think about this movie is it it truly like, okay, Nacho's a funny character.

Right. And you know, and he kind of gets off track, but his heart through the whole thing is right. It is. He is a real religious guy. He gets a little prideful there for a second. He was like, I want some, I want some, uh, I want people to notice me. Yeah. You know, but like he's doing, he's a good heart. He's doing this whole thing to feed orphans.

Yeah. You know, he's like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna break the rules, but it's because I want the orphans to have some flavor, which is my kind of rules to break, you know? Yeah. Give them some flavor. Yeah. Give the orphans the flavor that they deserve. I, by the way, one of the funniest [00:09:00] things in this movie is that they routinely refer to the group of kids as just orphans.

Orphans don't do that. It's just, it's awful. You're not children. No. You're only identified as orphans. Oh man. Even by the people who are caring for you. Who love you and care for you. Yeah. You're just orphans, toxic parenthood kind of thing. One of the big thing, uh, themes of this movie or not, it's not a theme, it's just one of the big tent poles of this movie is Lucha Libre.

Yeah. Uh, and sort of pro wrestling, the idea of pro wrestling in general, which I'm a big fan of. I know. Hate it. I hate everything. You're not, that's what I was gonna say. I hate fighting movies. This is the exception is because it is so funny. It's so funny and everything's lighthearted. But if there is, if people are brutally hitting each other in a movie, I won't watch it.

Let me, I'm gonna say something right now that will offend most people listening to this podcast. I've never seen Rocky. Okay. I, I, I, I hate movies like that. I will watch it. I [00:10:00] absolutely will. And I'm sure I'll find the beauty in it. The most, I've, the most, the movie I've maybe seen that I like the most, it's got minimal fighting, but it's still got fighting is, is far away home.

Is that what it's called? Far away? Isn't that about like a dog and cat? Okay. What am I thinking of? No, no, no, no. Fly flyaway home. Okay. Our producer is looking this up. Why is that? I thought far. Okay. It is Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman. It's where they met, I think. Oh, uh, it is a Irish, uh, it is a really, like, it's like one of those three hour movies that was like typical far and away, far and away.

Okay. Far away home, whatever. They find a new home, uh, far and away that is like, he fights in that movie. I still like 10 seconds forward every time that there's a fight scene, I'm like, okay. Yes, brutality. We get it. You're a man. Uh, so that's, I normally hate fighting movies. This is the exception. Okay.

Because I was cheering, I was cheering last night, but wrestling is d. It's, yeah. Okay. I disagree, but I hate fighting and wrestling. But I, this movie is the exception. Okay. I [00:11:00] was cheering, I don't, I don't even consider this a fighting movie. You know, there is fighting in it, but it's like, and so here's you, you get into the thing of like pro wrestling versus fighting too, right?

Which is in real life. You know, pro wrestling is, uh, I don't wanna offend any of my brethren here, so I'll say, we know that pro wrestling is predetermined. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Um, and the, the, and this comes from one of the biggest wrestling fans I know. So you're not trying to talk it down? No. Oh gosh, no. I love it.

I skip the facts. Yeah. So, you know, pro wrestling is predetermined and people are playing characters and it's absolutely, most of the time it's not presented as genuine sport. It's not presented with the, with the expectation that you're gonna take it in as genuine sport. Right. Okay. In Nacho Libre, however it is presented as genuine sport.

Is it what it is like with a, with a lucha libre kind of thing? Not to my knowledge. Okay. No. As a matter of fact, Lucha Libre in general is one of the most choreographed styles of wrestling. Oh. So it's very, very intricate. Okay. And the move [00:12:00] sets that luchadors, so Lucha Libre, uh, is, is sort of characterized by, uh, guys who are really acrobatic.

They do like high flying stuff off the ropes and flips and turns and blah, blah, blah. Um, and a lot of that has kind of made its way into American, um, particularly American independent wrestling, but even to some degree, you know, American mainstream wrestling. Um, but there's a show. There's a show called, uh, Lucha Underground.

Oh, and it's on Netflix. It was, I'm not a hundred percent sure, but it's a, it is a literal blend. It's half pro wrestling, lucha Libre style pro wrestling, and half like literal soap opera. Where they're, oh gosh. It's like the whole show itself is a, is a dramatized soap opera, but it's not a show about wrestling.

It's a wrestling program, but everybody is a character and everything is scripted, and they have these wild storylines. I would probably like that. And, but the, but the wrestling itself is, is choreographed and obviously it's predetermined [00:13:00] as presented in Nacho Libre. It is not, the wrestling is real and everybody's, you know, they're really getting hurt versus, uh, you know, in, in pro wrestling, people do get hurt.

But your main goal as a pro wrestler, one of your main focuses is to protect your partner. So like, if we're wrestling each other, I'm never actually trying to hurt you. I'm, most of the time I'm trying to protect you. You're trying to protect me in a showy way. In a showy way that looks dangerous and looks like I'm trying to beat you to death.

Right. But I'm never actually, most of the time I'm trying to keep you from, you know, from, from hurting yourself. But, so that's kind of the difference in, um, you know, in, in actual Lucha libre, you see a lot of the stuff that they end up doing in this movie, because obviously the movie's choreographed. But in, you know, in real Lu Libre, you would get that choreography as well.

It's just presented here as though it's a hundred percent real. Yeah. And, and back in the day, like we see Ramsay's walking around. You know, and he's walking around in the mask. He's what they call living the gimmick. Yes. Right? Yes. Like he's, he's walking around as his character. And back in the day, even in American Pro wrestling, it [00:14:00] used to be like that.

So they used to tell guys before, like cable TV and before kind of the curtain was pulled back on, you know, pro wrestling. It was still presented for a long time as though these were the way these real people were. Right. You know, Rick Flair was really riding around in jets and doing all this stuff to try and live the gimmick outside the thing to bring authenticity to his authenticity.

Did I say authenticity? Authenticity. Wow. You did that thing that this will only reach a few people, but that's exactly what Dante Bo does. In one of his songs with Maverick City. Oh no, it says Auth Authenticity. And then he fixes it. He's like going off the cuff and he goes, authenticity. A authenticity. Oh my.

And I went and they kept it in there and I was like, okay. Yes. Authenticity. Authenticity. Um, but yeah, they used to, they used to have people, like if your character was a bad guy, they used to have you be a bad guy off screen. So like, if kids and stuff would come up for autographs, you were supposed to be like, like was Ramsay supposed to be a bad guy in that world or just like a really tough fighter because he, [00:15:00] I mean he pushed a priest.

What is it? Yeah. Like maybe not a priest. What is fryer? A fryer. Fryer. Excuse me. Me. I'm so sorry. He pushed a fryer in front of orphans. Yes. So I didn't know if he was supposed to be playing that. I think, I think it's not necessarily that he's a bad guy, but Yes. That he's supposed to be great Ramseys. He's, you know what I mean?

He's like, mess with him. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know, he's, he's both revered and feared. And his, that is Cesar Gonzalez. Cesar. Cesar. Gonzales. Caesar. Caesar. I don't know. Here, but here's my note on him. He is actually, he's a well-known pro wrestler in real life. He, I used to watch him growing up. Oh, I didn't know that.

So when I was growing up, there were two major wrestling federations that were like national. There was W W F at the time, which is now WWE E Yeah, yeah. And there was W C W World Championship Wrestling that was based in Atlanta that Ted Turner owned. And they used to show 'em on tbs back when TBS had start times of like 6 0 5.

It would be like everything started oh five, right. You remember that? Okay. So they would do, you know, Saturday night W c w WCW at [00:16:00] like 6 0 5 and I would watch it at my grandmother's house cuz she had cable. And, um, that was my brand. That was the brand I grew up watching. And, uh, later they started introducing Lucido and lucha style wrestling into W C W.

They were kind of the first American, um, you know, mainstream company to start bringing that stuff in. And they had a, there was a character named Silver King and that's Cesar Gonzalez is, is Silver King. He was one of the lucido that, you know, that I grew up watching. So he, he died in a match. Later on, like a few, not, maybe not a few years after this.

I don't know the exact date, but he died of heart failure. Snap. Yes. In the middle, which is very sad. I watched that, I looked up the facts before I watched the movie and I was like, oh, that's, that guy passed away doing what he loved though. He was in the middle of, he was in the middle of a luchador match and, uh, passed away from heart failure.

So I was like, you know, it really, they're really doing stuff. They're stunts. Yeah. But, but I mean, it is acrobatics. Yeah. The, the amount of, actually, you know, it, they say being a pro wrestler is like learning to live through [00:17:00] being in a car wreck every week. Oh. Like, that's basically what it is. Even the, so the, the first day that like, people learn to be pro wrestlers or whatever, one of the first things that you have to do is learn to what they call take a bump.

Right. It's learn to like, get on the mat. Like, like jump and land on the mat. Okay. Which is not as soft as you might think it is. It's, it's a, a thin layer of like, you know, kind of gym matte. You know, material if that thick and then it's just plywood. Oh gosh. Um, and staging, you know, so you just have to, you have to learn how to take that without injuring yourself too badly.

Yeah. And, and just getting used to the pain of doing that, what, 20 times a match? Ah, you know, just that, just the landing itself. Yeah. Forget anything else. And so there is a lot, there's an element of like, you have to learn to endure a lot to be able to do it. And then they, you know, they say the toll that it takes on your body is basically the equivalent of being in a major car accident every week.

Wow. That sounds great. Sounds like it doesn't hopefully break any bones or anything, but the impact, you know, is, is about the same on your body. [00:18:00] Wow. Isn't that weird? That is awful. And why, why people choose to do it. I don't know. It's for the glory. It's for the glory. Um, I hope we don't offend anybody if we break into that sort of nacho accent.

This, I mean, he did it the whole movie. He did it the whole movie, which, and he, he has, he is not even 1% Hispanic. Is that true? Let's check it. Our producer is gonna check that for us. I, I believe Jack Black is Jewish. Okay. Like a hundred percent. So if we can listen to, if you've already watched this movie, then you hopefully are used to, uh, the Lord's chips and talk like this.

Yeah. And so I was gonna, one of my things to ask is in retrospect, how problematic is Jack Black's portrayal of a, of a Hispanic character being just a hundred percent not Hispanic? Yeah. Uh, I think, yeah, he's not at all. Okay. He's got nothing. He's got no Hispanic in him whatsoever. Uh, looking, it seemed so fitting for the movie.

I, looking back, I go, I don't know that this could happen today. Yeah. You know, he would have to be the white transplant that like his parents like left him there. Yeah. You know what I [00:19:00] mean? Right. Yes. He would've had to have been an orphan and then the accent's fine somehow because you've grown up there because you grew up there.

Yes, yes. Maybe. So that's the way to do it. You're right. I think a little backstory would've been, you know, it would've fixed it all. Yeah. But I don't think, I think now 2023 Yeah. May not have flown. Yes. And we're gonna get to our recast, uh, in just a few minutes and we'll talk about, I'm interested to see if we both have him now recast with a white actor or a non-white actor.

Um, oh yeah. I didn't even think about that. We already established last week that you love a good non-white in a leading role. So I do, I'm interested. I love some color. Yeah. As much as I can. No, I'm interested to see what you do there. All right. Let's talk a little design of the movie. Do you have any thoughts on the aesthetic, the design, anything like that?

I do. It is just so beautiful. I don't want to mention Wes Anderson every week, but um, it is like, it is Wes Anderson esque. Okay. It is, it's really, it's bubbly. Like it has a little bit of that. I could not explain it any other way than I've only watched, [00:20:00] like, I continually watched three seasons of Breaking Bad and then go, I can't watch the show anymore.

So that's, so, you know that yellow film grain than they put over that. Yeah. It's like anytime you're in Mexico or it's a hot place, it's a little yellow. Yeah. They like just do this film kind of thing and that, so it has a little bit of that. Um, it. It has this, like, it's just what you want the vibe to be in a Mexican setting.

Yeah. You just go, okay, this is great. This is what I would hope it would look like. Sure. So they really played into that. They really played into the colors in Napoleon Dynamite in masterminds. There's all these colorful moments and things that maybe, maybe it wouldn't be as old as it was in some of those, in some of those arenas at the beginning of the movie, when he is just starting out.

I'm just like, that is tattered and old. Right. Uh, like all of the things around it. So it, they definitely, for aesthetic, I feel like they made some choices for aesthetic, which I was about. Uh, but I, I loved the whole, I loved the themeing, the logo [00:21:00] itself, you know, uh, I, the logo itself, I'd probably give an eight out of 10.

Okay. I, I love it. I love the shadow. The red shadow of the Yes. Yeah. The red shadow that comes off of Nacho Libre Uhhuh as it goes across. I noticed. I think at the end of the movie, it might have been mid one of the battles. When I say battles, one of the matches in the middle of the, of the movie. It had the same kind of lettering in the background.

Hmm. It was on the wall and had the red, it had the red shadow. Absolutely love that. I use shadow all the time in, uh, in any of my designs. The scene that really like sold it for me is before his match with Ramses. He gets like, he's singing in this like, I don't know, bathhouse type thing. Yeah. With Esto and he.

The tile in that room. Yeah. It came on and I just went, oh, that is how I remember this movie. Yeah. It's one of those defining features of the movie. So it's got this like rose pink and throw up Colored green. Yeah. Tile and I [00:22:00] just went, that's what I imagine when I think of the Luchador community for some reason, is this tile.

This has forever put this image in my mind because that's the one I remembered. It'd been like, I don't know, eight, 10 years since I've watched this movie and. I went back and I was like, this is the scene I remember. And this is like Wes Anderson e like this scene, it just paints the picture. It's what I wanted to see.

So it real, I I love the whole vibe of the movie. It's happy, it's like there's no dark scenes. I'm pretty sure there's not, it's barely nighttime anywhere in this movie. That's true. Even if it is, it's like a light. There's a bunch of lights everywhere. It's funny, there's color. I love it. Yeah. Okay. Um, I, yeah, I love the, I feel like they nailed the aesthetic.

It's hard, it's hard to, it would've been hard to miss the aesthetic filming on location in Mexico, you know, so, yes. With a bunch of lucha doors, but I mean, it's over the top and fantastic. Yeah. But they, the, the way they sort of fleshed out the orphanage and all that stuff, I thought they did a good job.

You're right. Everything feels kind of lived in and. [00:23:00] Yes. Absolutely it does. It's not new. It's not a new, it doesn't look like a new set. They did that successfully. Yeah. Right. And it doesn't, and it doesn't look like a well-funded orphanage. No, it doesn't. They really did good with that. Serves the purpose of the story.

Like everything is pretty bland inside the orphanage versus like, you go to Ramsey's house for his, you know, the party scene at Ramsey's house and everything is, you know, elaborate has got the hoopla that you would Yeah. Expect from like, you know, one of the stars. Um, so yeah, I'm with you. I love it. And it does have that classic, so a lot of, um, it's got that classic, you're talking about the stuff in the arenas that classic like pro wrestling poster.

Yeah. Handmade kind of look. Yes. Hand painted. It all had, like, it had it, like I, I looked. I was looking for those like typographical points where I was like, oh, that is hand painted and it, I'm sure the logo isn't hand painted. It's definitely like, I mean, it's definitely like a font, but it has that vibe in terms of.

It was painted on the wall. Yeah. In, in one of, I keep wanting [00:24:00] to say battles. I'm making this more than it is scenes in one of the matches. It was painted on the wall and I was like, that is the kind of stuff that I wanna see. Yeah, definitely. It's like the, uh, it's like the pro wrestling version of a fresco, you know, like Oh, a fresco painting.

Yes. Yes. It really is. It really is. Like, and the old poster type things, like, I don't know why I remember this cause I don't know much. This is Nacho Libre is what I know about Luchadors. Yeah. So I remember these like luchador. Type prints like the posters for events. I don't know where I was when I saw this, but I saw these like that.

It's got typography, beautiful typography all over it. It's got like screen printed looking type, uh, it's got screen printed types of, uh, design. Yeah. It's just beautiful and I think that really portrayed well in this movie. Absolutely. Let's see. A few of my favorite quotes from the movie. I have a few.

Yeah, they're fantastic. It is a quotable movie. Oh, very quote. I like Napoleon Dynamite. Yeah, for sure. It is a quotable movie. [00:25:00] Very. Um, and one of mine that I use this, I use this quote very, very often in my own life, is they don't think I know a but load of crap about the gospel. But I do. That is I, I saw that, I think I saw that in someone's Instagram bio once, and I immediately followed them.

I just went, man, that's it. That's the stuff. First of all, the, the juxtaposition of a but load of crap. A but load of crap about, and then your next thing is the gospel. Like, it's such a, it's such a, uh, like dangerous juxtaposition. Like is that okay to say? Can you say those words together? And that's why it's one of my favorites.

Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. My, my go-to. Is how come we can't ever have just like a salad that is my favorite. That's my absolute, I think that's my favorite one. And then, you know, when you are a man, sometimes you wear stretchy pants. Of course, because I've lived my life based on that one. I've, you know, skinny jeans till I die.

Yeah. Um, And just that, how come [00:26:00] we, I think I'll quote, how come we can't ever have just like a salad when I'm eating very terribly and I'm just like, you should probably switch this up is like, like day four of Thanksgiving leftovers. How come we can't ever just have like a salad? Oh, absolutely. Oh gosh.

Uh, let's see, the wrestling. So in, in the movie, the wrestling has looked down upon because Tudors are false idols according to sister, uh, incar. They're, they're receiving the kind of praise that should be reserved for God. And so, of course, in the orphanage slash monastery or whatever, you know, it's gonna be, that's gonna be frowned upon.

And so that's why Nacho has to go in secret when he, when he gets this idea to be, you know, he's, and you see the very beginning scene is little kid nacho trying to be, you know, impersonating a, a, a luchador. And so, you know, this has always been in his heart. Who is Okay, so I'm so sorry. Are you talking about who plays him?

Yes. Troy. Troy, I guess Gentile. He's in the Gold on the Goldbergs, and he looks just, [00:27:00] I think he looks, he also so, so much like him. He really does. I'm sorry. Uh, he, I, I cut you off. He looks so much. You did. He looks so much like him and he also played Young Jack Black again that year, uh, with Tenacious D Is it in The Pick of Destiny?

In Pick of Destiny, yeah, in the, yeah. He played Young Jack Black again that year. Oh man, I didn't know that. Yes. Yeah, I watched some of the movie with the, um, director's commentary, um, here with my lovely, um, SD four by three copy of the movie, um, that I got at McKay's for 95 cents. Um, because apparently I didn't own this movie.

Neither one of us owned this. I didn't either. And I, I was like, oh, I for sure have that dvd. I still have my big case of DVDs. And we look through it and I was like, oh man, we're gonna have to rent this movie tonight. I think I must have owned it at some point and then maybe sold it to Mcca. Probably. This might be your old copy.

This is probably my old Yeah. Back when I had a square tv. But like, uh, the director's commentary, uh, so the, it it, it, the commentary was Jared Hess, Mike White and Jack Black, which is pretty solid, like I [00:28:00] find on commentary. You don't always get the full crew that you want. Right, right. But that's the writer, the director, you who they're allowing you to have at that point.

Yeah. You know, you'll be like, oh, this cinematographer cool. You know, or whatever. But, um, But the commentary itself mostly was kind of like lackluster, surprisingly. Okay. But one of the things Yeah, that's a, that's a, I would think that would be just a eventful, very excited. You put Jack Black on something, it's gonna be a eventful.

Yeah. But it was like, okay. It was most of them going, oh, that was great. You know what I mean? I remember that. Were excited. Yeah. But they, they did say that, what's his first name? Troy. Troy Gentile. Okay. Which is hilarious for you. You just assume that kid's Jewish, you take one look at that kid's hair and go, you're Jewish.

Yes. Yes. If his last name is legit Gentile. And he's very funny. And I, I hope he's super Jewish. Yes. Right. Like, that's hilarious. Even better. And I, I need to know family ancestry, how that happened. How you got the last name Gentile. Exactly. If you're Jewish. But, um, they said that that's his real hair for Jack Black Nacho's.

Hair is a wig. Okay. For the movie. Oh, I [00:29:00] did not know that. But they were assumed it was his hair. Yeah. But for Troy, it was just all natural. That's was his mop. So he is Italian and Iranian. Oh, okay. Okay. Wow. Jack Black does not look Italian or Iranian. Wait, are you talking about Jack or Troy? Troy. Okay. Troy.

Okay. All right. Wow. Interesting. Okay. Troy. Troy, Gentile, the Iranian child actor. Yeah. That's fantastic. Okay. Um, there's a training montage in this movie that includes a skeletal firing, a cantalope at Nacho from a big slingshot. Yes. Like, like a, a, how do we explain this? Like a between two trees size.

Mm-hmm. Slingshot. What's the biggest melon you think you could withstand without getting knocked down? Much smaller than that. Like, he, he hit him with that and I was like, that is, that is a lot of force. A lot of, I mean, it would have to be, however you get the smaller melon, it's gonna start to feel like a baseball hitting your chest.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Okay. So maybe [00:30:00] that's where I go. Maybe it's watermelon size. Yeah. And maybe it's watermelon size, and you're like, okay, there's enough pressure. That is taken across the watermelon that maybe I won't die, but I, I guess you get smaller, it's gonna go faster. It's gonna hurt more. I think the, I think the, the bigger the melon, the greater the impact and maybe the push on your body.

But yeah, the, like, the smaller it goes, you start flinging grapefruits. That's gonna be the wel welt or we, oh, we've already, we've had this conversation forever go. It is a welt. A welt. Welt is like welt. I guess that's it. Yeah. Welt is the, you she's looking this up, but I know I'm right. It is welt. It is a welt on your body.

You mean you guys personally have had this conversation before? Yes. Not you and me. I'm sorry. Yes. But yeah, I definitely have had, have, I've always wondered, I don't know, I think I say, I think I say a Welp, because a welt to me sounds like a thing that southerners say that is wrong. That it should be, I'm wrong.

I'm so confident in it. But I, I, I think I looked it up and it is welt. Yeah. [00:31:00] No, I think you're right. Oh, no, Whitney's got it. vocabulary.com says a wel. Hey, well there we go. Thank you. vocabulary.com. It just sounds like when my mom says shrimp to me, like to me welt just seems that that degree of off. Yeah, like when my nana says I have to change out the cartilages in my printer, and she said, look at those columns.

Oh, you know, a column like a, in a. I call, like, this is a such beautiful, yeah. Beautiful. Columns. Columns. Oh, that reminds me. I have to change out the cartilages in my printer. Yes. That's what welt sounds like to me. So I'll probably just still go about being wrong, but feeling better about the word I'm using.

That's fine. Use what you want. Yeah. Use what you want. Um, actually now I'm just gonna be confused for the rest of my life. Let's see. Um, okay. The, the thing where he cranks the bike Oh, gets me every time. She, I love that bike. Whitney just held her, she held in chest. She's like, oh, that's the perfect scene.

Dear her, he like over cranks it. He like [00:32:00] really gives it and it this like put putt little, you know, like kind of golf cart is being generous. Yes. You know what I mean? Golf cart motor is being generous is what he's driving, you know, but he cranks it like it's the freaking Harley Davidson. More than that, I've never seen anyone with a Harley crank it as hard as he does that.

Yeah. Um, okay. If, if you were gonna train in secret. For a sport that would be, that would bring shame to you? If people found out that you were doing it, what would it be? I would for sure be a gymnast. Okay. Yes. Okay. So I'm tiny. I'm okay. I'm not tiny widthwise, but I am tiny in height. Yes. And I feel like it would be gymnasts based on my abilities.

Yeah. I think I would be a gymnast or a, or a jockey. Okay. Okay. So a horse jockey. Yeah. Because they're all, they're small. They're smaller guys. So I think, I think that I took, I always have this thing in my mind where I go, you took. [00:33:00] Gymnastics when you were a kid, and I bet if you had stuck it out, you would've been great.

Would I have been? I wouldn't have been, but I have this, uh, it's my toxic trait where I go, yeah, I could've been an absolute Olympian gymnast. Yes. So that is mine. Okay. What is yours? You, you got a solid trunk. You know what I mean? Yes. Like you've got the, like I've got the thunder thighs. You got, I would've been able to stick the landing, uh, except last year I decimated my knee playing Bickler ball.

Yeah. And I feel like maybe I would've needed to really engage in gymnastics in my early twenties at the latest. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Because thirties, it hit me hard. No, you age out of gymnastics. Quickly. Quickly, yeah. What would yours have been? Um, I don't know. I mean, But it has to bring shame. It has to bring shame.

Like that wasn't like, I would've had to, I would've had to wear a leotard and I don't necessarily like to do that, so. Right. Okay. I was, I was gonna say, what degree of shame would that have brought to you if people were like, Zeke, he made the Olympics like, [00:34:00] like four out of 10 the most, but it's only because everyone I know would have watched me in spandex.

That's, that's all it is. Different kind of shame. I understand. Yes, it definitely is personal shame. I, I get, okay, I get that. Um, I don't know what my sport that would've brought shame. This should've been a luchador. I mean, I, I think it might've just been pro wrestling. Yeah, yeah. Like, you know, because you do, I mean, you do have to be fine making an absolute fool of yourself Absolutely.

Being like half naked all the time, you know, unless you like, have a cool costume that you can like hide under. Um, so yeah, it probably would've just been pro wrestling for me. Speaking of that, I. Like I used to look at Jack Black in this movie and go, oh, he's a bigger guy. And as I get older I just go, you know, Jack Black looked pretty good in this movie.

And I looked, I looked at his, I just looked at like his physique in this movie and I was like, I don't, I wouldn't hate that if I ended in that spectrum. Yeah. You know, he just reminded me of every dad I've ever seen on the [00:35:00] beach. Yeah. Wouldn't just pull that a little too fast. You're so confident about that Stomach.

Didn't even think about it. No. Which is the kind of confidence I aspire to have. Yeah. Look, I have confidence, but I go Jack Black. In tight pants and no shirt is the kind of confidence I want to aspire to within the next 10 years. Cheeks together. Oh yeah. Squeeze his butt cheeks together. Yeah. And he's not, you know, he doesn't have the biggest butt.

Right. And he flattened that thing. Granted, I don't think anybody looks good squeezing their butt cheeks together. No, no, no. You, yeah, yeah. And Jack, but he did. That's the confidence I want. And Jack Black is the kind of guy lean into that. Like he obviously he knows, part of the joke is, yeah. That he's a little outta shape, you know?

Yeah. Like, had he been really fit. And so I, when we talk about our recast, yes. I didn't choose anyone that was fit. Like I even thought about it and I was like, no, that doesn't fit for this. Yeah. It's not the same. It kills the whole thing because then you go, oh, that person's attractive. And you go, Ugh, I don't wanna, I don't wanna do that.

I wanna look at somebody who makes me feel like I could do this. Yeah. Yes. Exactly. And that's even later in the movie, we have a skeletal saying, we always lose because you are [00:36:00] fat. Like, you know, he's like, why is it? Which by the way, so they get, they, they try and, you know, He becomes a tag team with a skeletal who initially is the guy who steals the Lord's chips at the beginning of the movie.

Right. He attacks him and takes his, takes his chips. Uh, the guy who believes in science in town, and he only believes in science and he's, he's got this way of smiling where he literally shows every tooth, like, and it's crooked. I don't know. It's just they, they, Jared Hess has this athe aesthetic that he goes for.

Yep. Where he is like, I'm gonna find the weirdest looking people Yes. And put 'em on, on screen. Yes. Like, you are going to remember this face. Yeah. And that also makes it really hard to recast when we're going through that section. It, uh, I just go, you, I had to pick. Maybe not weird looking people, but people that were like, he painted the picture Well, yeah.

When it came to this. So I had to pick people that looked like the people who already played them. Yes. It just, it just made sense. He picks people that are just caricatures of themselves. Yeah. You [00:37:00] can't imagine anyone else. That's right. I had a really, really hard time doing a recast, uh, on this one and it was easier for me than signs our last episode, but, okay.

This just cause signs was like, to me, that is one of my iconic, iconic movies and I just went, no one is Abigail Brelin, but on this one I was like, okay, maybe I could pick a few people. Yeah. Um, so they do several things trying to like, figure out, they go from being like, okay. If we, if we tag team and we wrestle at all, we get money, we get paid, and that lets me buy the ingredients for the orphans, and then they figure out, then that's where the pride starts to sneak in.

Right. Nacho becomes not content because he is watching Ramsey. Yeah. He gets his, he gets his heart in the wrong place and he starts to chase the glory. Yeah. The glory and, uh, and so then he's like, he wants to, he doesn't just want to wrestle and get the money. He wanted a wing, he wants, he wants the winner's purse.

Yes. Which they used to, they used to talk about that a lot in pro wrestling, but when I was a kid, they would still pretend that the winner of a match got more [00:38:00] money than the loser. Even though, but they didn't, no, they were just, I mean, you're, every, they, they get paid the same. You have a contract, so, oh.

Because of, oh man, that changes my whole life. So, yeah, so a pro wrestler, it's, you know, you get paid X amount of dollars a year and you tell the story that we write for you, you know what I mean? Oh man. And so it's like wins and losses don't actually mean anything. And, and you may lose all the time, but still be a better wrestler than the guys that you're losing, losing to.

Yeah. It just matters, the story that they wanna tell with your character. Okay. So, um, so it wouldn't make any sense, it wouldn't be even be fair for them to have, you know, the winners get paid more, you know, now obviously, If you become champion, there are certain perks probably that come along with it.

Sure. You know what I mean? But it's, but anyway, but they, but they used to talk a lot about the winner's purse. You want to get that? Yeah. You know, whatever. So Nacho starts to chase the winner's purse and they're trying, they're, they go, the, the one thing in this movie, maybe j maybe just one, but one thing in this movie that always feels like a weird left turn is the eagle egg bit.

Oh, I, I, I wrote down a few things [00:39:00] about this. Okay. That is some of the worst CGI I've seen now. They do well about it. Like he's flipped by the bull in this movie at one point. Yeah. And that CGIs bad, but I'm like, that's funny. I like funny bad cgi. I'm good with that. But they didn't let him climb the wall.

It's clearly a green screen cuz it cuts off at like a random point of. It cuts off at a random point of his feet. Like the, it looks like he's standing on a spot that's not a cliff part. Uhhuh. And I just went, why did they do that? And Whitney was like, what's happening? She goes, I don't understand what this imagery is.

And it is a weird left turn and nothing comes of it. Yeah. Nothing, nothing comes of the eagle egg. Yeah. It doesn't even work. They go to climb this like cliff and to get an eagle egg because skeleton said he knows a guy who can show, that's where science gets you. Okay. That's what it, you believe in science.

Right? That's what it gets you. Yeah. Um, that's what exactly. That seems like a, that seems much more of a faith element to me. It does. It does. Um, and [00:40:00] so they, they go up and he, and the, the eagle eggs are huge, by the way, eagle eggs in real life, I looked em up. Do a little research on the eagle. Eggs can't be that big.

Right. They're not that big. They're, they're slightly bigger than chicken eggs. They're about three, three inches. That thing was bigger than an ostrich egg, what he was drinking out of. Yeah. It's like, it's almost a two-hand. You know? Yeah. Um, and so he gets the egg all over his face and then he jumps off the thing disgusting.

And then he tries to like summon his eagle powers later. And it doesn't, it doesn't work. Um, but yeah, that's the one spot in the movie that I'm like, this doesn't really do it for me. You know what I mean? It, yeah. I, and I normally don't think about those things. Like when I was, when I was, I guess younger watching this, I was like, that's funny.

That's, that's a funny part. Yeah. And that might've been the, the main reason of doing it, or I can't understand why he's so, as the cook of a monastery, why he is so bad at eating. He c got most of the egg just all over his face, which first off, I just can't, when food is all over the face, I just, I get a gag.

I just go, I can't do it. And then when he tries his awful, I think, refried [00:41:00] beans at the beginning of the movie and he, and it shoots out of his nose. I can't think. And then he rubs it on his, his cheek. Yes. That's a real gag. I can't, I can't. He rubs. Okay, come on. He rubs it on his cheek. Ah, and it's, uh, I'm trying not to gag.

My eyes are watering. He, he rubs it on his cheek and I'm like, who do you know how to eat? And when he's serving the food, he can't do it. No, he's flipping it all over the place. He like, he was just chosen for this. They're like, cuz no one else wants to cook. And he is there. He is what I think. Well, I mean, the salads look fantastic.

He is, he is good at plating food. Yeah. Okay. Nacho is successful at plating food, but he is terrible at eating it. And I just, I don't understand, I do not understand how he got the eagle egg mostly on his face. Yes. Terrible. Uh, and maybe that's why he didn't work. Maybe so, maybe if he would actually had it, he didn't get enough of the nucleus, um, to, for the, for the magic of the eagle egg to be able to work.

You didn't, um, okay. Did you know this is something [00:42:00] I learned about eagles. Did you know that the reason that bald eagles are rare now is not just that they're rare animals, but that they became endangered and nearly extinct because of pesticide. Ah, so in the. Early sixties, uh, the pesticide d d t was, you know, they were still using it much earlier in the, in the, in the, uh, in the 19 hundreds.

Um, and um, it, it became a thing where, you know, the pesticides would reach the, uh, water supplies where the eagles were eating fish. And so they would get, it would get in the fish. So we ruined the eagles and so we ruined the eagles. We made the eagles endangered, uh, acutely because of the use of D D T.

And so then they started the protection and now they've like, I dunno if they're off the endangered list, but they're, it's been much, you know, you're much more likely to see an eagle now than when we were kids, but like, uh, but it's taken decades of conservation efforts to, to try and protect the eagles.

Oh man. And I bet part of it is [00:43:00] because people saw this in 2006 and thought, you know what, I'm gonna go drink some eagle eggs. Get me an Eagle egg. Absolutely. When, uh, when Nacho sings the Incar song, incar, um, he looks. When he hits the chorus, right when he hits that spot, he looks directly into the camera.

I didn't notice. And he's just for that part. So he's, you know, he's like off to the side and he's in the bathhouse type of thing, but like dressing room or whatever. And then when he hits the big emotional chorus, he turns and he looks dead into the camera. Oh. Didn't even notice singing into your soul.

And I just, I just love that one. What I used to hate was when actors went into there just like their character outside of what they're playing. Oh yeah. He fool. Does Jack like he, he does. In Nazi and I'm just like, oh, that is Jack Black. Yeah. It's my, it it became one of my favorite things. Cuz I mean, they're letting him do it.

Yeah, [00:44:00] they're letting him do it. In this movie, it's the same as, uh, the Live Action Grinch. Where Oh yeah. Every once in a while you, it's like, I, I forget it's Jim car. I don't forget. It's Jim Carey. Yeah, but it's So you buy that it's the Grinch Yes. Until he does a few things where I'm just like, oh, that is just Jim Carey.

Yeah. It's like, this is an a this is a what, what was his pet Detective? Ace Ventura. Ventura, yeah. I was like, this just Ace Ventura with some green makeup on. So I love, I have started to love when actors do that. And when he did the little flute off the side, I'm like, there's, that's, nothing's more Jack Black.

Right. If you wanna be Jack Black, just play the fake flute off to the side. Yes. Yeah. That whole bit. Um, another note, there is no dialogue whatsoever in the final fight. The whole, that whole, I didn't notice that climactic thing from the, from the start of that to the end until after he's won the match and he grabs like a skeletal and says like, we did it.

Right. There's no dialogue whatsoever. Uh, it's not silent. Obviously there's crowd noise and there's grunts and you know, whatever. But, um, and [00:45:00] when nacho wins, so here's, here's wrestling note for the wrestling. Purist out there listening, and I know you're listening. Um, he wins by pin fall, right? 1, 2, 3, outside the ring, which is rare because typically, Unless you have specified in a match that it's falls count anywhere, you're, that wouldn't matter.

You can't pin somebody outside the ring. They have to be inside, ah, the ropes for the, for the pinfold account. Unless in a, in a pro wrestling, you know, setting, it's specified. Okay? In this match pin, uh, falls count anywhere. So normally if, like, strictly speaking, that wouldn't have counted. If you're gonna win a match outside the ring in a regular match, it's gonna be by a count of 10.

Uh, just the, the ref like counts you out. I don't know if there's special like luc. Rules that might be, that pin falls always count anywhere. Right. But, um, and then he, he goes back into the ring and I'm, and I'm gonna post this on our stories on Instagram. He does a very specific jump. When he wins, he does arms, [00:46:00] arms up in the air, and then falling down to the knees as he brings the arms down.

Oh. And that is a tribute to Rocky three. No Rocky does that same, see we didn't know that because we haven't seen Rocky three. Yeah, Rocky does that same jump when he beats Clubber Lang, Mr. T's character in Rocky three at the end of Rocky three. Now I thought that was Pure Jack Black. Cause I was like, that's his shot.

Well, I'm sure he sauce it up like Jack Black, but, That, that is hilarious. Yes. I remember sp I remember us talking about that jump specifically. The, the difference is, um, and you'll see it, I mean, and I I I'm gonna post it in reels, but the, the difference is Rocky goes down to both knees. Nacho goes down to one knee.

Yeah. Um, and does, and then kind of does like a, you know, a thing. But it's definitely a tribute. Like I didn't even bother looking it up to see Okay, yeah. You know, see him say that he did that as a truth. It's a, nobody on Earth has ever done that just on their own except Rocky and Rocky three. And so, um, I, I love that cuz I love the Rocky movies.

[00:47:00] I'm definitely gonna make you watch one. Oh, absolutely don't what we're, I might love 'em too. It's just the brutality of it. I always go, oh, okay. Oh, but there you go. But in the Rocky movies, here's the difference. You ready? Okay. So it's like the, the difference in the difference in fighting movies and the Rocky movies is the same difference between gangster movies and The Godfather.

It's, okay. So it is the. Fighting movie. Not only is it the fighting movie, but the fighting is secondary. Okay. Yeah, because it's so in the first two Rocky movies in the, in the second Rocky movies, the second two Rocky movies, the fighting is the main, you know? Okay. But, but it's so soaked with stories. Okay.

And the same as The Godfather. It is the, it is a drama that Yes. Goes around Godfather in the, is a story about family that happens to be set in a mob family. You know what I mean? That's, I can, I can appreciate that because like, I don't like gangster movies. I freaking love The Godfather movies, you know?

But, um, it's that same thing. [00:48:00] So the Rocky movies, the, the, the, the fighting is just so, um, um, poignant. Is that the right word? Sure. Prescient. No, not prescient up. Anyway, I think it's, I think it's point anyway. Okay. It matters the fight, the fighting, you're into the fighting because of the story. Right. Right.

Violence, I, speaking of that, I cheered audibly while we watched this. I cheered audibly when he slowmo jumped from the break. Really? Oh, I was like the, that's the, those are the two things that I remember from this movie, and they did not disappoint this next time through when, when I saw the tile. Yeah. In that room before he, before he sang at the, before he sang into the camera, and then when he jumped.

Arms behind him. Stomach first into Ramsey's. You know what, I just, just connected. I mean, this isn't unintentional, but that pose Yeah. Is the blinding Eggs, blinding edge pictures logo from him? Ah, yes. It is where he is doing, where he is doing that with that blue [00:49:00] screen. And that guy's got that like arch back and he's flying.

Yeah. It's it's the same pose, right? That might be why I love it. Is that, is, is that okay now here, because that's a, that's a, um, Shall we call it a supernatural leap that he made? Yeah, for sure. Right. That's, it's not, it feels like 25 feet. Is that the manifestation of the eagle powers? That was it. They just took a few days to kick in.

Yeah, it did. To get into his nucleus. It was the manifestation. All the nutrients finally dissolved. Yeah. In his body. And he was able to take flight. I mean, that man soared. Yeah. And he beat Ramses Ramses. You do have, I'm gonna say it wrong time. Yeah. Ramsey Ramses. We're, we're white. We're doing the best we can.

You do. We are. Um, and you do have at the end, so you've got the whole, you've got the whole time, you've got Nacho as a man of faith and skelet to as a man of science, right? Yeah. But before the final fight, what happens? They connect and pray. They connect and pray. And he gets baptized. Does willingly baptized funda.

Yeah. But, but skeletal prays to the Lord that he would give him with nutrients. [00:50:00] Nutrients. He does. That's why I strength or whatever. Yeah. Is that what he says? He does. So you got, give him nutrients. Oh my gosh. The redemption arc. So I guess you have to attribute that to the Lord then and not the eagle powers.

Absolutely. That's pray before that. The Lord giving him the nutrients. Yeah. That's like the Lord using medicine though. Maybe he used the eagle powers. He's like, okay. They can kick in now, right? Maybe. Yes. Okay. Alright. It's time for us to, uh, switch gears here. Let's take a minute and let's talk about, let's do the recast.

Yes. My favorite slide up.

Who do you wanna start with? You, you start us out. I, okay. I, I, um, I mean, we'll start with nacho. Nacho was hard. Nacho was as hard for me as Abigail Breslin was for signs because, How do you I took this one was easy for me. Really? I don't know why you keep going though. So interested to hear. Oh, because, okay.

Now first of all, I, I felt like I had to get somebody who was actually of Hispanic heritage. Oh, okay. Man. See, I didn't take that into consideration for this one. I just felt like if we were gonna make this [00:51:00] movie right now Yep. That it just would not fly to have just a straight up white dude as the lead.

That's better. Probably. No. Unless we changed the story like we talked about earlier. Yeah. Okay. But so I, so I agonized over this. Like, I, I, I searched, I'm talking about a massive database of Hispanic actors until I've, and ended up going with the first person that I thought could do it, even though he's a little bit old.

Okay. Um, for this, he's. I think he's like nine years older than Jack Black. Like now he's nine years older than Jack Black was in Nacho Libre, so it could still work. Cause this Jack was 37. Yeah. Which looking back I was like, man, he is flexible for 37. Yeah. And so this guy's 46 now, but he's just the best guy I could find to do it.

Okay. Who I thought could pull it off and genuinely do the thing. His name is Michael Pena. Um, he's, he's in Antman. He's uh Oh yeah. You know who I'm talking about? Yeah. Well, I'm looking him up. Okay. Cause I don't know him by the names. He's an American hustle. Um, and he's got the comedic chops, you know what I mean?

[00:52:00] He's not like the skinniest guy in the world. I mean, he's funny. Might, but he doesn't, you know how some people just kind of look like they're a little overweight? Yeah. He might not even be, I don't think he is. But he has the overweight vibe. He just has that vibe. I, which is unfair. It is. It is. And he has the, he has the, he has like that.

You went through middle school as either ugly or fat, and now you have the personality for it. Uh, yeah. Yeah, he does. That's a great one because Whitney likes to say that that's what she did. That's when you develop your personality has nothing else to fall back on. Yeah. He went through some character development as a chunky child.

Yeah. And now he come and now he come out. Now he come out. Now he came out being able to play these roles. Okay. That's great. All right. Who you got as Nacho. Okay. And I think Whitney has them too. My, oh, now. Okay. So I didn't, I wasn't, uh, respectful of, of our Hispanic Okay. Movie at all. That's fine. I, I did last week.

You made everybody Hispanic. I did. I did. I did. Um, [00:53:00] so I guess we're backtracking. So for this one, the actor that I thought could encompass this, I did two and I did gender bend one of them because I was too perfect. Okay. Uh, one of, okay, so my number one pick is John c Riley. Okay. Okay. Okay. Cause he has the same kind of vibe.

Okay. And I think I've seen him play a role like this, and that might be why I'm doing this. I've seen him play like, you know, the not Talladega Knights. That's not really, uh, where he does this well, but I think, I think the main character in this was the curly hair. And I was like, John c Riley is a little overweight.

He's funny. I think he can do some comedic, uh, like body acting. What is that called? Yeah. Physical, physical, physical. He can physically, he can physically act in this type of way. Okay. And he has the kind of body for it. Now that one's not the one I'm proud of, but this is my, this is my gender bent way, which would change the whole thing.

Yeah. Okay. Because I didn't gender bend anything else. I, that's, I considered it. Okay. So I made things complicated and I didn't wanna complicate it. Right. [00:54:00] So I just went, I'm not gonna think about the repercussions. Okay. Uh, I am just going to gender bend this fortune fester. Okay. Oh, man, fortune Fester, who is a comedian.

She's been on a few movies. She's been on a few movies, like movies where? Melissa McCarthy and Yeah. And, uh, Kristen Wig. Like she's been on like some b characters in some of those movies. Her comedy is some of my favorite. She gets real southern every once in a while, uh, to when she impersonates her mom.

Yes. And she has the hair. Yes. She's, she's, she's a bigger girl. She mocks it all the time. Uh, she jokes, she jokes about it. She's confident in herself. Uh, she is a lesbian in real life, so it would make it where if she was into the nun it would make sense. Okay. In this gender bent thing? Yeah. Okay. But she has the hair.

Yeah. And I just know that she would wear a leotard proudly. Yeah. And she would be a great luchador. Oh, you're right. That's so, I think Fortune Fester was my best pick. Yeah, that's song. And I had a gender bend for that. Okay, fair enough. What do you got, producer Whitney? You have some producer. [00:55:00] Whitney, did you do this?

I thought, well he had just said them, but Melissa McCarthy is Ignacio and Kristen Wig is Elto. Oh, what was Itto? Um, but then the, the nun would have to be someone and I was like, are you gonna gender? Did you gender bend? Like I'm she gender, everything Sam, because I thought he'd be funny, but was like, he has to be attractive.

I was like, I think Amy hamburger is attractive, but he's funny. Yeah. I was just going full comedy. Oh, full comedy. Yeah. Like that changes the vibe of it actually. I don't think it changes the vibe too much. I'm just imagining Melissa McCarthy doing the things that he was doing. Yes. And it would just be so hilarious.

Melissa McCarthy would be Nacho Esto is Kristen Wig hilarious. And you just get Paul Fiig to direct the whole thing. Yeah. And it just becomes one of those movies. Exactly. One of those movies. Hundred percent. I think if they red. Is it Nacho, Libra? Yeah. I don't know. Then they can, then they can switch it up and it can be, it can be the nuns trying to catch the eye of the fryer of the, I keep forgetting.

Let me just say this. If, so now I'm, [00:56:00] now I'm jumping into your gender bent version and let me just say, submit for Incar, who would, I don't know if he would've the same name or not, but I would submit John Ham for. Oh my gosh. Bride for somebody who's just like, so it's bridesmaids, devastating. Handsome.

It's bridesmaids, devastatingly handsome. And he comes in and he has, like, he could be, he could be full priest, you know? Yeah. And he comes in and everyone is like, you know, the angels singing behind him. There's a, there's a glow around his head. Yeah. It would make sense. Yeah. That's the, so my original idea, I thought about gender bending this because I thought, I can't find any, I can't think of, Any man who could do what Jack, who could beat Jack Black enough to make this work.

But there were a few women where I was like, that could, they could. Yeah. And my thought was Melissa McCarthy. Like, I had the same wonder, like now she might be a little too old, but Melissa McCarthy, you're not old Melissa McCarthy. We know you're listen, listening just for this role. And she may not be, but like maybe eight to 10 years ago would've been perfect.

Yes. Like perfect, you know? But anyway, that's great. I [00:57:00] love that. Thank you. Producer Whitney. So Esto then where, who, who did you check, uh, for that? Okay, so I went into the actual field of pro wrestling for Skeeto. My gosh. Okay. And I, because I couldn't think of an actor who like had that frame. Mm-hmm. And that was the hardest part, you know, and, and it's important.

His name is Skeleton, he's, you know, so I went to an actual pro wrestler. His name is Dominic Mysterio. Okay. And he's, I'm gonna look at what he looks like. He's tall and he's, he's thin. If they, but they, you're right. They would've to do the same thing with him, they would have to even skinny him up a little further.

Oh yeah. He's not skinny enough, but he is skinny when he first broke in a few years ago, so he's the son of a legendary luchador Okay. Named Ray Mysterio Jr. Okay. Um, and now it just goes our Ray Mysterio. But his, his dad is one of the absolute greatest, um, pro wrestling lucido of all time. Okay. And, and he does the whole thing with the mask.

We haven't even talked about the mask being so important in Lucido wrestling, but it's, it's an insult to have your mask removed. Oh. So [00:58:00] that's why they kept doing it, and that's why. Okay. That makes sense. And even in, you know, like in Ramsey's case, he's wearing it at all times your identity in. Especially in old school Lucido style, your identity is to be protected by the mask.

You're essentially Superman and nobody knows who your Clark Kent is. Yeah. Now, Ray Mysterio went through a period in the late nineties where he was wrestling without his mask, but since his return to WWE e in the early two thousands, he doesn't take his mask off. Off. Oh, that's nice. He's a mandalore. Yeah.

It's like, exactly. Yes ma'am. And so his son, uh, is Dominic Mysterio, and he has just started, um, wrestling in the last, like two to three years. And when he first broke in, he was skinny as a rail. Hmm. He's put on some muscle now, but he's just like, he was just like all still lanky. He looked like Jack Skellington.

Okay. You know, essentially, um, which is, you know, about as, about as close as I could get. So I went Dominic Mysterio for skeletal. My, okay. So I, I lied. I, I chose some people of Hispanic heritage for this. Okay. And I forgot, I forgot. My first choice is Moise a. Okay. Okay. He is the, [00:59:00] why can't we just have like a salad?

Oh, because when he grew up No, he, he got, he got lanky and he's not as tall, but he lanky, played on Disney. He played on a bunch of Disney shows. Really? Yeah. And he got real, he got a little grungier when he was older. He had a bunch of dreads. Um, and he like grunge dreads. Not really, not locks. He had, he had like some grungy dreads and he, I think he could play this successfully.

So he's my first, he's my first one. And the, the, uh, the, whatever you call that of that, the, yeah, like going back, picking someone from the original re casting. I love that. Yeah. That's brilliant. So he, he worked, he went from a child actor. I think he's like middle-aged. After. If we do that, then Ccho could help.

Oh my gosh. Yes. Good job. Yes. Ccho could have played Jack Black. Uh, and then my other one just. I, I chose. Okay, so I chose two for each of these. Not my goal. Okay. I just could not choose. Uh, my, my other one for this was a blockbuster person right now. Lanky, [01:00:00] funny, couldn't look like an idiot. Pete Davidson.

Oh, that's, I, I mean, yeah, dude. So Pete Davidson was my blockbuster pick for this. I was like, I wouldn't choose him normally, but I just went, he could do this. He's lanky enough. Yeah. He could be funny in this role. Oh, uh, he's weird looking. Yes, exactly. He could do the weird smile. Yes. Uh, racially ambiguous.

He could do, he could do all of that. So Pete, Pete Davidson is my pick. That's a great choice. And you said yours is Kristen Wig Wright producer. Yeah. Both, both of you. Well done. Um, and okay. So then finally for Incar, um, this is what I was waiting on. I ime I immediately knew who I wanted for this. I searched to see if there was somebody better, but my choice for this is Anna de Armos.

Oh, she's knives out. She knives out. Um, yeah. Oh my god. No time to die. That's perfect. I just thought she is just, she has that beautiful innocent Yeah. Look like she's gonna work for the Lord, and you're just gonna be like, it's gonna be like she's gonna work for the Lord. Like w [01:01:00] e r K. She, like, she is the, she is the girl that is reading her bible at youth camp, and all the boys are like, oh gosh, what do we, what do we do?

Yeah. What are these emotions? That's what that feels like to me. I chose someone, it would be a slightly different movie. Okay. Just a little bit different. It would be a little more like, and I don't like this type of movie, but it would be a little more like, uh, American Pie esque. Okay. I know. I don't love it.

Okay. But it is, the first thing that come, came to my mind is Selma Hayek. Okay. Yeah. It would be Selma Hayek. Okay. So she is my, she's my Hispanic heritage. Like, I just go, that's, she's pretty, you know, Selma Hayek is a pretty lady. She would make a terrible nun. I need to, I need to, I need to say something here.

Selma Hayek is so much more than pretty. She okay. She is. I agree. I was trying to be very respectful. No Sel, Selma Hayek. And I usually don't like, I, I just don't say a lot about my feelings about how women look, but Selma Hayek is [01:02:00] on a very rarefied level of beauty. It's, it, it is Whitney's, it is my father-in-law's favorite.

Right. He loves her and he can't, he never remembers her name, but he knows who she's, when she gets on the screen, he goes, oh, I love Selma Hayek. She is, she is one of those, yeah, she, she is one of those. And I just went, it would be a different movie. You, yeah. The body type is a little bit different. It'd be a different movie, but she's a little, a little shapely.

A little jealous. Yeah. She would have her, her. Outfit. Oh, that's called out. It would be tighter. It would not be. It would be a totally different movie if she was the person introduce a different level of tension. Yes. Okay, so yours is John Ham, right? No, no, no. Better. Your ginger band is, I like John Ham better, but then it turns into bridesmaid, so it's like Andy Sandberg works because Andy Sandberg.

Even if you, even if you don't originally look at him and go, he's a good looking guy. He's famous enough now that you forget that you didn't think he was handsome, right? Yes, precisely. He comedically he could [01:03:00] do really well, even though she didn't really do a lot of the comedy. Yeah, she pretty much plays it straight.

Yeah. My second one, okay, my second one is my, is not necessarily mine, but my crown and glory. Okay. Whoopy Goldberg. Whoa. I'm gonna tell you. Wow. I, I would pay so much money for that to be done. That is not my original joke. Okay. I was talking to someone else about, I was talking to Chris, uh, carne about that one of our friends this week, and he goes, oh, that'd be funny.

You could do, uh, whoopy Goldberg. And I wheezed for three to four minutes. And I was like, I might not have, but I wheezed very hard. I was like, oh my gosh. And then it hit me again like 10 minutes later and I was like, I'm gonna have to use that. And he's like, please do. He's like, don't even quote me. And I was like, I'm gonna have to, and that is just Whoopy Goldberg showing up as the nun.

Yeah. Just, it's everything. It's like we talked about, I don't care if it's, it could be present day Whoopy Goldberg. I'm still good with it. It would be, it's like we talked about last week at the, uh, at the end. [01:04:00] Of split when Bruce Willis shows up and you realize you're now in the unbreakable cinematic universe.

This is the sister Act two Sister Act one. This is the, the sister universe cinematic universe. Oh God. Just becomes connected. You your tooth on. I did, I hit my tooth very hard. I heard that sound happens to all of us at some point. Oh man. It's the sister, it's the multiverse of Sister Act and Nacho Libre.

Is that whatever happened? Yeah. I that's, that's really funny. Like on a strict level. I go, okay, we she's too old. It wouldn't make sense. Wouldn't work, wouldn't fall in love with Whitney. Being fall in love with who, I mean, stuff, stuff happens, you know, stuff happens. Absolutely. Okay. So unless you have anything else on Nacho Libre that you need to say.

I don't, I think we're gonna move on to a, to the next part of our show. We're gonna take a break here. We're gonna cook some homemade tortilla chips, uh, and then we'll come back, tell you how we did it. We're gonna try 'em for you and we're gonna rate, you know, our work together. So we'll see what we did.

Absolutely. Alright, we'll see you guys on the other side. Alright guys, we're getting ready to make our homemade tortilla chips. You, you can just take the ridiculous thing off. While we've been talking to [01:05:00] people, you know, okay. There. Okay. All right guys, we're about to make our homemade tortilla chips and, uh, we're gonna start with baked ones.

And while they're baking them, we're gonna make the fried versions. Let's go slide up.

All right, we're back with part B of our Nacho Libre episode in which we have made the Lord's Cheaps. The Lord's cheaps. And, uh, man, I gotta tell you, I'm pretty impressed. Yeah, I predicted earlier in my own disappointment, and maybe that's just a personal thing that I need to work on, but, uh, I gotta say what we've, what we've accomplished here is looking pretty good to me.

So we. Deep fried, uh, chips here to my right. And it's the sound of the deep fried chips. Some of y'all just loved that and some of y'all just hated that. And then we've got a plate of baked chips, uh, that we did in the oven. Oh, different texture. Uh, uh, yeah. Uh, a little bit cleaner. Scratch. I feel like [01:06:00] maybe the oil, uh, does something to the fried chips.

So I don't remember which ones you just scratched. I did, I did. I, I placed them off to the side. So my scratch, my nail scratchings would be with me when we taste them. All right. Um, so. Here's, kind of walk you through the recipe. We're gonna put this on, uh, reels too on Instagram. Follow us at Cinema Snack Bar.

Um, and hey, go to patreon.com/cinema snack bar if you want to support the show. And we can kind of try and give you some bonus goodies and ways that we have to say thank you. Um, however, for now we're gonna talk about the recipe a little bit. So we did deep fry. I don't have a deep fryer, so it's deep fried 'em in a, in a pot, um, which was a lot easier than I anticipated it would be.

Yeah, it wasn't messy, it didn't get grease everywhere. Um, you gotta use a high temperature oil. We used canola. You can use peanuts, sunflower, and some, uh, just straight up vegetable oil. But you gotta make sure it has a high smoke temperature so you don't end up with a grease fire problem, right? Um, and a grease fire is a big problem.

Yeah. Um, and then you drop your, so you, you, uh, cut your chips from the [01:07:00] full size corn tortillas. Drop 'em into the oil gently so that they don't splatter splatter. You gotta make sure that they're totally dry, you know, you don't want anything on 'em that could make, you know, moisture, cuz it's gonna react with the grease and then precisely then you have problems.

Um, so then we drop 'em in and it was like, it was fast, honestly. Threeish minutes. Yeah, these could have come out sooner. These were in Yeah, we have some brown ones. That's nice. Yeah, these were in like two and a half, three minutes, try to, you know, swirl 'em around and separate 'em. But I'm really impressed with the way they looked.

Yeah, they look great. We salted 'em while they were hot. Um, so basically as soon as they came out you salt 'em so that the salt kind of has time to not just sit on the chips but like become one with the chips. You know, that's what the Lord wants. Yeah, that's the, the Lord definitely salts his chips. As for the baked chips, they took about 20 minutes.

Um, they look a little wimpier. Yeah. You know, little more, a little more, uh, shriveled. They are the, um, they are the nacho to the ramseys of Yes. You know? Yeah. Yeah. The boil. The boil. The, I said [01:08:00] boiled boils. Yeah. That boiled the, the boiled chips. No deep fry. No, I was like, boiled, boil. I was like, that's terrible boiled.

We just took corn tortillas and put them in. And called them chips. Holy water. No. Is that just corn meal? Does it turn back into corn meal? If it's spoiled, that's disgusting. Okay. The fried, the deep fried chips are definitely the Ramsey. Like they are, they're steak. You can tell. Looking at 'em. They're, they're the kings.

Yes. If that was served to me, most of these, if they're served to me at a Mexican restaurant, I'd be like, Hey, I'm good to go. Similar to Ramsey's, they were covered in oil. They were, that was a very awkward scene too. Yeah. Cause men were just rubbing his chest getting greased up, man. Yeah. Um, so, alright, we're gonna, we're gonna try these.

You got anything else you wanna say before we try these? No, I'm just mouth this water in. Okay. I'm ready. Let's taste this. We're gonna taste test the fried first. And I'm, I'm gonna chew this into the microphone. Oh no. This could be terrible for some viewership. Let's do, so I'm just saying trigger warning, if you're sensitive, I'm gonna go son's salsa first.

But we do have some Yes, correct. Medium chichi [01:09:00] salsa, but all you gotta, you gotta have it without the salsa first. Let's crunch and see what happens. Okay.

Man. Oh man, I'm happy, man. That is really good. I got one of the lighter ones and it's still like got the little bit of chewy, man. Man, that is nice. That was, I'm sorry you're missing out if you, if you are just so hungry right now, this is the type of podcast you need to listen to. This was so perfect. I cannot imagine myself not doing this more in the future.

Yeah. Like I don't wanna buy many chips anymore. Like this is the kind of chips I just wanna make 'em, but the thing is, I think to make the amount you would like if you were to, I mean, I eat, if I start eating chips, I eat, we eat, we eat. So I'm trying to think cost-wise, but it's the oil is the expensive part really.

Okay. It's not so much the corn tortillas, but a thing of oil. It's like maybe eight to 10 bucks Right. For a thing. And you might get two uses out of it. Ah. That's the thing. Now, unless you're in a restaurant where they're in the back and they're just reusing the oil, you know, making so many things of, if you like, if we, if we have a night of chip [01:10:00] making, then I think that could, I think that could work.

Wow. A night of chip making sounds weirdly marital. Um, I don't know why Whitney and I will have a night of chip making. Wow. But it will be literal. It will just, we'll just be making chips. That's uh, odd. Okay. I'm super excited. I'm gonna try this, uh, actually in some salsa and see what the combination is.

But best believe when this pot goes off the air, I'm finishing these chips.

Wow. I am so pleased. Dang it. I'm going back in for a second. This, try not to talk while that's you cuz that would be disgusting for sure. This just changed my life. Like, listen to that. It took, it took two episodes of this show for me to have my life changed for the better. I'm just gonna, I want one more of the, and I hope that's the same for you guys listening.

Yeah, that's fantastic. I hope it is. Let me, let me just say, let me just encourage you guys with this recipe. This was so easy. Sorry, I to take another bite. There is nothing to [01:11:00] this, but a little caution. Right. I mean, that's all, just don't start a grease fire is 70% of this recipe right. For these we're not really cooks that started liking movies.

We are movie lovers that were like, we clearly like to eat. Yeah. So let, so this doesn't take much. No. Yeah. And I, I, I love to cook. I'm off for a good recipe and I'm up, I'm up for a challenge, you know, I'll smoke a Turkey for Thanksgiving and that kind of stuff. I'm up for a little bit of complication.

Right. Right. This was not complicated at all. There was nothing to this. Just drop the chips in the oil, wait for a minute and take 'em back out. Yeah. This is level like two outta 10, I would say. Because you have to have the, yeah, you have to be able to not start a fire, but two outta 10 on difficulty. I would just like to suggest Rob is known for his nachos.

Oh, those, oh, as nachos. Rob makes fantastic nachos. We layer the whole pan, put all of you, break it up into quadrants. Yeah. And then you put your, you, you start out with a big pile of, uh, of all of the condiments, all chip, the ingredients, and you get to [01:12:00] build out your nachos and these, but with those chips, Rob would be great.

It's totally fresh out. The, uh, that would be so good. We could create just like a single layer of the chips, like nothing stacked on each other, and we get the full flavor of the chip. It'd be like, that's what we need. I'd need. Just like $40 just of oil. And that's okay. We could reuse. Okay. But that's the thing.

We could reuse the oil that night. Yeah. Just keep it going. Keep that oil at the boiling point and we'll just keep plopping in chips. Not like one of those restaurants that's been open for 80 years and they've never changed that. They've never changed the oil. They just added more. They've never, but they've never like, yeah.

So this is good. This is good. We'll, we'll have our, yeah. If we have, take another bite. If we're talking about a ratio of recipe to reward off, off the charts, like Absolutely. The benefits far and away galaxies outweigh the challenge of right of the recipe. So. As long as you're careful with the oil. I see no reason why a 10 year old shouldn't try this.

I was right at the beginning. Kids, listen, kids make your mommy some nachos [01:13:00] tonight. She's been busy. Get out the oils. You know what? Don't even bother with a pan. Just pour it straight on the stove eye and that way you don't have to wash any dishes later. Oh man. That's perfect. That's perfect. And it greases up the eye.

It's just, it's, it looks like it's gonna be successful when you do that. Now. Now we're, okay, now let's try the baked chips. Okay. So I, so far, I think that my prediction at the very beginning was right. I'm very happy about the outcome. I keep saying boiled of the boiled chips of the deep-fried chips. Okay.

I mean, it boiled, but it boiled in oil, the Yeah, yeah. Of the deep fried chips. I am so happy with the outcome of that. I'm thrilled. Now here's my scratch chip. I got the chip that I scratched. Sorry. I should have helped you with that. J.P get, so these are definitely darker in color. Um, I'm not sure looking at them that you would know that it was a corn tortilla to start with this.

I feel like this is gonna give me the same reaction as, you know, baked lays. Baked lays. Like my mom was about them. Yeah. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. Okay. So I'm a fan, but it's not my go-to. Yeah. If I had [01:14:00] those or baked lays. I'm picking the deep fried. Yeah, of course. All right. So I feel like that will be my Oh yeah.

Without salsa first. All right. Let's see how the crunch is. Here we go.

Oh, hey. That's not a letdown. Yeah, it's all right. It is a different vibe. Oh, you do this? See, that's nice. It had a, it had a second punch, but yeah. I definitely think these should be in there like a little less than what we put 'em in there for. Yeah, we did full crunch, we did 375 degrees in the oven. You, um, before you cut the tortillas, you uh, lightly coat them with oil.

You put 'em in the oven. We baked him for 18 minutes. Um, I'd probably go, I'd probably go 15 if we did it again. Yeah, there may be a little bit. Um, these do have a healthier taste. You go, I, I don't feel as bad for eating this. I don't feel like my face is gonna break out. This is one of those, I go, okay. You know what I mean?

Like, if you drink enough coke, you go, mom, I'm gonna have a Z tomorrow. That's what the [01:15:00] other ones feel like. That's what the other ones feel like. This feels like, Hey, we're making some, uh, it's, it's early in the year. We're making some changes. Yeah. This is the chips you're gonna make. Yes. These definitely taste like an alternative.

It is. It's like, it's like, um, oh man. I'm trying to think of like a CCM version of a band. Do you know what I mean? Yes. It's like if you love chips, like you'll, I mean, if you like chips, you should try baked chips. Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. It's like, uh, I'm trying to think. It's like if you like Adele, you're gonna love Lauren Diggle.

Yeah, exactly. That is, that is, that's, it's like when they tried to give me, like when I was in middle school and they're like, be a better person. Yeah. Here's what you can listen to. Yes. That's what these chips are. And that, that being said, like if you had never heard Adele Yeah. You'd be all good with the Lauren Dayl.

Absolutely. You'd be, these are the only chips I had tasted. Yeah. I'd be fine. And even if you like, yeah. So it's, it's fine. Just fine. They're by themselves. But given the two [01:16:00] in front of you, obviously you're gonna take the, the boiled chips, you're gonna take them stick, you're gonna take the deep fried chips.

Yeah. Unless you're just, unless you're. Keeping the metaphor alive unless you're just very adamant about trying to like see yourself through some life change. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You're gonna go, you're gonna go with the fried ones. Um, alright, let me hit one with salsa and see how that goes. Yeah, here we go.

Sorry, I have not, I'm helping, I'm not helping him reach that at all. I'm gonna get one of the darker ones. This one's actually almost, this is borderline burned right here, but I'm gonna taste it and see. I'm kind, I'm kind of about that. I mean that's got superior crunch to a store bought chip. Definitely.

Oh man. Yeah, it's really good. Neither one of these are chips that are going to break in the dip. No, no. God, they're staying. They are sturdy guacamole. No problem. Sour cream. No problem. You could probably just slice this into an avocado heart and be fine. Yes, absolutely. [01:17:00] This is not breaking for any reason.

Um, I've gotta pause. I was about to go back to the deep fried, I literally have it in my salsa and I'm like, yeah, just go with what you're going with now. And if you, if you are offended by the baked ness of the baked ones, you can mask it with the salsa pretty well and not really care about the difference.

Yeah. The strong, the strong taste of the salsa, you know, you're doing fine either way. So if you need to make a change, it's the beginning of the year. Yeah. If you need to make a change, go ahead and go for those baked chips. But if you want that flavor Yeah. Y'all, you want the they? Yes. Where are the spices?

A little salt, by the way. I don't know if we said, but salto, while they're hot, when they first come out. Um, so that the salt can, we did, we talked about it so that the salt can like reside in the, in the DNA of the ships. Oh my gosh, it's so much better. I went back to the deep fried man that is except exceptional.

That boiled hits different, that boiled hits different. That is, that's exceptional. Yeah. Now the baked is fine. Okay. If you're a baked person, that's fine. Right. But that. [01:18:00] That deep fried. I'm like, I'm gonna eat all these. Just know. But, um, but the, the, the fried ones, yeah, they're definitely king. Still Ramsey's, only Ramsey's is still on top as far as the king.

He is. He is. But depending on the moment, you know, nacho can do that leap off of the thing. Yeah. Off of the Matt. Yeah. And win it for the orphans. That's it. All right, that's gonna wrap it up for season one, episode two of Cinema Snack Bar. We're so grateful that you guys have joined us. We hope you enjoyed our chips talk.

We hope you enjoyed the Nacho Libre talk. Um, and we hope you've, you know, we've done, maybe done something to brighten your day today. I don't know, may given you a new recipe to try at home. Uh, maybe burn your house down. Not our fault. Please don't do that if that happens. Children, I was kidding before you probably turned it off already, but, um, don't, don't, don't burn greases on your stove.

Okay. Um, Zeke, you got anything else you need to add before we go away? I do not. I'm just happy to be here and I'm happy to be eating. All right. Thank you guys. Man, if that ain't it, right, like that's, that's life right there. Uh, thank you guys so much for [01:19:00] listening to Cinema Snack Bar. Be sure to follow us on Instagram at Cinema Snack Bar, and if you wanna support the show and help us to cover our costs and be able to do more, you can go to patreon.com, that's P A T R E om.com/cinema snack bar, and you can support us there.

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We'll see you next week for our first ever a f i Top 100 edition of Cinema Snack Bar. Until then, I'm Rob. And I'm Zeke. It's the best the end.