Signs + Water Shootout

[00:00:00] Season's greetings and welcome to Cinema Snack Bar. I'm Rob Alley. And I am Zeke Tucker.

And we are here to talk about the movies you love and the foods that helped shape them. Welcome this our first ever episode. Yes, it is. This is your first ever podcast.

It is, it really is at all. Mm-hmm. . And so we're excited for this. If you know me at all, you probably probably know me from my non-existent blues music career, my non-existent Christian music career or my non-existent singer songwriter career. Perfect. Or you might know me from the Great Song Podcast.

So I host the co-host the Great Song Podcast with J.P Moser. And we've been running for five plus years, 200 episodes at this point. And I was like done with that over it. And time to start a new podcast. We need to talk about some movies. Not really done with it. We're still going. Just kidding.

But, so I called Zeke. Zeke is one of my best friends, one of my close people. And we both have strong opinions on movies and Zeke has a different eye for things than I do. And, and [00:01:00] he's bit of an age gap, or you're what? Just a little bit. Nine years younger than me. 32 here. Okay. Yeah. So you're nine years younger than I am without me having to say it.

And and so I was like, Zeke, let's do this. Let's make this movie podcast, but let's throw a twist in there. Let's talk about food that is in the movie. So that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna talk about. These movies that we love, and then we're going to either discuss or eat or make something, some relevant food sounds so good from or to the movie.

So Zeke, why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself for everybody who's joining us for the first time, we're the people know you from

Well hopefully no one knows me, but if you, if you want to find out a little bit more about me I am a graphic designer. I live here in Tennessee near Rob.

And I have been just addicted to food and addicted to movies since I was same middle school. So this seemed like a good fit. I studied, I studied telecommunications at Lee University. That's right. You're the one of us that

actually has some film [00:02:00] study

experience. I didn't do anything with it.

This, it was all for this, it was all for this podcast. That's right. And so was the 45 pounds I gained while I was at the university. . I was testing all the food. We were ready to go. Yeah, I was ready for this podcast, , like 12 years ago. I was, I was so amped. But I, I, I, I, I studied telecommunications and then decided halfway through that that I wanted to be a graphic designer.

So I try to, so I try to approach movies. I try to approach everything with a design eye, especially food. So So, here we go. All right.

So we're gonna, we're gonna kind of break down these movies. We've got a couple of segments that I think is gonna be really interesting. Hopefully you guys will, will be into it as well.

We're gonna do a recast of each movie that we watch, where, you know, if we made this movie right now, who would be playing kind of the main significant roles. And then we're gonna talk about, today we're gonna be talking about water. If you're watching on video, you can see we've got waters in front of us of various types.

And we're gonna do a taste test and see if we can tell the difference between these [00:03:00] bottled waters for a for like food-based podcast. It's kind of a funny thing to me that we're starting with Right? Right. Starting right outta the gate. But it seemed like the simplest way to go for like episode one.

And today's movie is Signs by Mite Shalan. Yep. Featuring Mel Gibson, Joaquin Phoenix, and some others we'll talk about. So, water plays a significant role in it does in the movie. And by the way, this podcast is gonna be just full of spoilers, but this movie came out in 2002.

It was literally 20,

21 years ago.

Yeah. So if you haven't seen it by now, you can watch it. If you haven't seen it yet, go watch it and then maybe come back to the pod. You know what I mean? But like, we're not gonna shy away from spoilers. This is not a brand new film. So here's kind of how we're gonna run this show. This is the plan for us anyway.

We have our, like, first year of content essentially laid out except for a few things that we'll need your help with. I'll tell you in a second. But we're gonna kind of go a, a, a choice of. A choice of mine. And then we're gonna go take a, a random film from the American Film [00:04:00] Institute top 100 films list.

So like a, a bonafide classic right? That we may or may not have seen before. I literally just generated a list of random numbers. And those will be the ones that we use. And then every fourth week will be a listener pick. So we need you guys to start thinking about what movies you would like to see, or if you want to punish us, what foods from weird movies eat you would like us to even better have to try.

And so that will be kind of our rotation. So this is Zeke's Pick but this is also a movie that I love, a director that we both love. Absolutely. And this was when, let's just dig into it. Let's talk about signs from 2002. Signs is, this is from Wikipedia. Signs is a 2002 American science fiction horror film.

Let's pause right there. Is this a horror movie to you?

I do not consider this a

horror movie. I don't either. No. But a lot of the stuff that I've seen, obviously it has like horror elements. It has some like, sure, it has a few like jump scare kind of things, but most of it, I, I would consider this like a, a thriller [00:05:00] or Right.

For sure. It suspense a suspense movie. This, that's what this is to me. Not like, not like real horror, but I guess mite shaalan kind of early on. Reputation after the sixth Sense. Right. That, but that even to me is not a horror movie.

Right. I don't think he, I, I feel like he didn't really get into his horror genre until later.

Yeah. And those are the movies. I don't tend to love of his, but when these, I just consider his, his early ones, his sixth Senses, his village and Signs, I consider those like beautiful Yeah. Weird thrillers. Yes. And I'm about, that's my favorite genre. That's my favorite like thing that he does. You are

kind of a beautiful, weird thriller.

Yes. If I Exactly. I could say so. So yeah, so this was Sha Milan's third movie, if I'm right. He, sixth Cents obviously blew up, killed everybody. You know, the, the twist of all twists. And then unbreakable, which is one of my all-time favorite movies, was his second movie. And it was kind of, it did well, but it was a, a little bit underwhelming at first, but Right.[00:06:00]

Gosh, I love that movie so much. And then signs in 2002. This his

third blockbuster? Yeah. Oh, he had a few. He had a few before. I, I, okay now, now have research. I was like, oh, those don't matter. There was like two before. Oh, I didn't know. And they didn't, they were like, it, it got him on the map. Mm-hmm. And it got him on the map as a writer, but it did not, it, it was not one of his, like blockbusters and I forget what the names are now.

Interesting. But, but this is his, like, did you say second or third? The third. Third. Like big blockbuster. Okay. This is what his third one that he's

known for. Okay, great. Let's see. It was produced by Mite Shalan, Frank Marshall, Kathleen Kennedy, Kathleen Kennedy, and Sam Mercer. Produced by Blinding Edge Pictures.

That's his and the Kennedy Marshall Company. It was commercially distributed by Touchstone Pictures and by Touchstone Home Entertainment. And somewhere in all this I saw that. That Buena Vista Pictures is involved with the distribution, which makes me go, is that, is that, does that make this a Disney movie, right?

Buena Vista.

I saw that question. I saw that. They're like, is this a Disney movie now? But I don't think so. I saw, no, I saw no final,

[00:07:00] it's, it's streaming currently on H B O Max, so I don't know if that means anything or not. A great cast. You've got Mel Gibson. And let's see, hold on. Let's talk, let's, let's just run down this cast really quick.

The main cast. You've got Mel Gibson as Father Graham Hess, who is like a, he's not a retired Episcopal priest. He's a. It's walked

away from the face. A

f Yeah. A former Episcopal priest. And you've got Joaquin Phoenix, who is his younger brother, Meryl Hess. Then you've got Abigail Breslin, who is Mel g Mel Gibson's daughter Bo, who is just the most, the best like of, of child performances ever.

And this was her debut. Yeah. Yeah. Is like introducing Abigail Breslin. If you, if you know her from other stuff, you might know her from Little Miss Sunshine. Mm-hmm. What she also did when she was young, I mean, she's still young. Yeah. But this was 20 years ago at this point. But now she's just like a normal age actress, you know?

Yeah. But yeah, little Miss Sunshine was kind of a, a big breakout for her. It was. She was the star. She was Little Sunshine. Right. Then you have Rory Coln as [00:08:00] Morgan Hess hurt the older brother. And Rory is, I believe the youngest Coln, like, you know, there's all the Cols, right? All the Calkins. And. , it's hard to keep up with the ones, for me, it's hard to keep up with the ones that are not McCauley.

Right, right. Like McCauley, Cogan, everybody knows. But then there's Rory, there's Kiran and there's, there's another,

I only knew the two. I only knew Rory and McCauley.

Oh really? Yeah. That's all I knew. There's, there's definitely, cuz there's one of the other, I think it's Kieran. Kieran is blowing up right now.

He's in, he's in some show on Hbo o or Showtime that he is it's k i e r a n. But like yeah, he's like coming. Oh, he's, he was in Scott Pilgrim versus the World. That's, that's Kieran. I was Rory. No,

I'm pretty sure that's, I was gonna be like, oh, well I only know the ones that I've seen. Like, so I thought Rory Kin was the one in Oh, okay.

I know Kieran.

Okay. Kin. So yeah, I think that's, I think that's Kieran. Yeah. They all look very similar. And they Colton jeans them, them. Yeah. You know, Colgan, when you see one, you do. One of them is also in home [00:09:00] alone. One of them plays Macaulay Culkin's. One of his younger son cousins thought that was a joke.

I thought you were like one , you may not know this, but McCauley Colton was in home alone. , no. One of the other Colgan brothers was in, was in home alone also as a cousin or a younger sibling. And then you've got officer Pasky who's kind of the last of the main character, or like main supporting character.

And that is Cherry Jones. Cherry Jones in the original. I don't really know her from anything else except

for The Village. The Village, which was, I mean, literally, those are the two movies that I know we're from, but they are two of my, in my Tough tens. So I have a fond fondness for Cherry

Jones. Yeah, she's, she's great.

And then let's see, following its premiere in theaters nationwide on August 2nd, 2002, the film grossed. $227,966,634 domestically. So like almost 228 million just domestically. It earned an additional 180 million plus internationally to [00:10:00] put to a combined $408 million. So approaching half a billion dollars for sciences in 2002.

In 2002, which is, that's kind of crazy talk for what this was, you know? Sure. But I, I think part of that road on, first of all, it's, it's a great movie. Second, like Shalan was. A hot director at that point? Yes. Yeah. So it was kind of there for I, I'm sure for you, but for me for a long time, anything that had his name attached to it, I was gonna see it.

Absolutely. Every time. Didn't know what it was. Where was the, what was the falling off point for you?

It was the Happening and I Oh. But I was there, I was like, I went to the, I went to the theater and it's like, you, you have what? Can you really like something? Or at least I do this when you really like something, you will give it your all.

And then, and then it's like, it takes a lot for you to question it. Yeah. So I was like, at the end of that movie, and I was like, do I not like this movie, ? And I, and it was like, it was a moment for me to like, I, I had to question myself. Yeah. I had to, and I was like, do you not like him? Not [00:11:00] Shawan anymore.

And it was the happening for sure. Like, but I, I kept going like, I think one of his next movies was Devil, which is a lot of things I'm not for. Yeah. You know, I'm not for, I'm not for like, that's not for the devil. Yeah. I'm not so much for the devil. Are like explicitly like horror films. It's not my favorite genre.

And I saw it nonetheless and I was like, oh, this might be the end of this kind of thing for me for Mny. Shalon. But there's like, there's a specific like beautiful Few years. Yeah. Where he put out some of my absolute favorite films. And then once the happening hit, I went, mark Wahlberg, this is not your best work.

and Mite Shalan. I'm, I love the, I love the basis of it. Yeah. Everything, everything about the happening, the opening scene is great. Everything about it, I'm just like, this I could love. And then I just went, execution. Not your best work. Yeah. Sha

Milan, it. Yeah. There was the, the happening was nobody's best work, , like everybody involved, name anybody

involved, it was probably their best.

Chanel. I just go, oh yeah. New girl. You had New Girl and then you chose this, but

whatever. Yeah. Was the happening Okay, before, was the happening [00:12:00] before or after Avatar? The last Airbender,

I th I think it was before I was looking at like, his movies in, oh man, I'm, I'm gonna

have to know. I, I think the happening was, was before the last Airbender.

Because if, even

if people were like, okay with the happening Yeah. They saw the avatar , right. Or, or, yeah. No, it's the avatar. And they were like, or the last Airbender. Yeah. And they were like, oh. Oh, you've ruined it. Yeah. You've ruined everything.

That's, I, I think that was where I hopped off. Like the happening, I went Okay.

That was a swing and a miss. A bad Miss . Right, but like, which I hate cuz I wanted

to love

it. I did. And then I saw the last airbender and I went in knowing nothing about the cartoon. You know, oh, I did time. So I was like, even so it wasn't like, oh, this disrespects the original and you know, the vision of the blah blah blah.

I was just like, that sucks. That sucks a lot. But so since then, it's kind of be like, okay, when he put something out, I'm like, I'm gonna look at it, you know? And obviously Split was dope. And Oh, it was, it was, and then the

revelation that brought him, that brought him back [00:13:00] for me. Yeah. Yes. The

revelation that split then was part of the Unbreakable universe.

And then you get glass after that

because you don't, well, I don't know if I spoiler. You don't really know that at the beginning. It's like, it's not Yeah. Advertised that's a part of that trilogy. No, no, no.

So it, that's really, that's the twist in Split is in the post credit scene that you find out, oh, this is in the same universe, man.

As Unbreakable was. Yeah. And then, which, oh, I was all in on it. Right? Oh yeah. So that blew my mind. That took that movie from a, you know, from like a B to a b plus, A to a minus territory for me, you know? Yes, I agree. And then, and then Glass, which I waited my whole life for, you know what I mean? Like the culmination of that was just, just perfect.

I mean, one day I can't see any reason why we wouldn't do Unbreakable at some point, you know, in season six of the show or whatever. But we'll get there. We are gonna do, I think over the , there are several A couple of at least Shalon films, I think that we have on deck already. ,

they might all be for me, I don't know.

But there's gonna be

Shalon, there's gonna be Disney, there's gonna be superheroes. You can count on that. And then there's [00:14:00] gonna be like, I don't know, Casablanca type stuff. Like it's gonna be an odd mix because the, the AFI top 100, a lot of those are not films that like either of us are like all of that.

It's not my go-to. Yeah. Yeah. So, but interestingly enough though, I think the first AFI film that we're doing is a Disney movie. It's, was it really? Yeah, I believe so. If I'm not mistaken. Okay. So so we'll see. Stay tuned for that. Okay. Let's see. There's a lot of great stuff about that movie. Let's just talk about some favorite moments, favorite things.

I'll say this, one of my, just watching it, trying to like dissect it a little bit. One of my favorite moments earlier on in the movie, when their first I, here's, sorry, here's the plot of the movie. Okay? If you don't know the plot of the movie and you're just listening, cuz you love us, first of all, thank you for listening.

Thank you so much. Second of all, here, let's fill you in a little bit. It's about aliens, okay? And it's about sort of faith and family and what would happen if aliens freaking took over. And so Mel Gibson's character Father Graham Hess is is a, a priest who has [00:15:00] turned his back on the faith. And basically what happens is one day weird stuff starts, starts happening.

Weird noises. They go out in the field and there's crop circles in his, in his back fields. And so things start revealing themselves in a way that you realize, oh, this is real. An alien contact has been made. You know, and then it's speculation about is it a, you know a probe as the army guy says, right?

Or is it like an invasion? Are we in danger? Blah, blah, blah. . And so the tension builds around, you know, this through the lens of this one family, about this alien invasion. And so that's kinda the tale. And it, and it ends up, you know, spoiler alert, the aliens are, are real and the aliens, you know, interact with this family and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And, and sort of all over the globe, it turns out there's this huge, you know, kind of war of the world's. You know, alien presence. So one of my favorite moments at first is they, they first think the crop circles are a joke done by, right?

What's it oh. Is it [00:16:00] lion? No. Lion. Lion, Richard and the Wolfington brothers.

And the Wolfington brothers. Yeah. I made a band, I made a graphic forever ago that, that I was like, if. was some, if I was like AKA musician or a punk rock, that would be my band name. Yeah. Is Lionel Pritchard and the Wolfington Brothers. Ah. They quote it and I was, I was thinking about that. Whitney, my wife and I were watching it last night.

I gotta be, you know, like right there. I had to, I had to, it had to be fresh. So we were watching it last night and I was like, within the first 30 minutes, Lionel Pritchard and the Wolfington Brothers are mentioned four times. Yeah. And I just go, that is too, like they, they never shorten it. , they always say Lionel Pritchard and the Wolfington Brothers.

Yeah. And I, I made a, I made a terrible like band graphic for that several years ago where I used an alien face and then I had a, I was, I was about it. And if I, if I was a Scott musician, I would be like, that's my band name. That's great. It was fantastic. I

would

go I would go, it could also be a great blues, a blues band name.

Yeah. Right. Lionel Pritchard is a great blues name. Okay. Okay. You're right. Wilington [00:17:00] Brothers. You've got like Stevie Yvonne, double Trouble, you know, that kind of thing. So yeah, that would be So it's them. This gives me an you should. Okay. This gives me an opportunity to say, you can follow us on Instagram at Cinema snack bar, and you can send us messages, ideas there for movies you would like for us to watch.

Either by DM or just commenting on something. Just, you know, send us anything and we'll consider it. We'll, we'll pick what would either be our favorite or the most interesting, you know, for each month to kind of to kind of dig into. I can't wait to see what you suggest. So first, follow us on Instagram at Cinema Snack Bar.

Excuse me. And you should definitely try and find that logo. You can't impose it, these stories or we'll post it on Instagram for sure. Okay. anyway. So when they first are, like, it's Lionel Pritchard and the Wolfington Brothers, they think they're you know, they have this great moment where they're trying to like chase him away, right?

And they run around the house and, and Meryl Joaquin Phoenix's character tells Mel Gibson's character to like, act like a crazy, you know, act like a mad man and whatever. And he's like, what do you, what do you mean go [00:18:00] crazy? And he's like, you know, swear and stuff and yell and blah, blah, blah. And he's like, I don't, it doesn't sound natural.

Yeah, it doesn't come natural. And everybody knows those people. I mean, I'm one of those people, right? It's not, it doesn't sound right if I try and swear it doesn't sound right, coming outta my mouth. So, Mel Gibson. Awkwardly running around his house yelling. I hope you're to say that. And cursing.

I am insane with, with anger.

That's what he yells as he runs around. And I just go, oh,

that's so good. He does such a, that's like a, whenever, whenever people have to do a, a thing where they're acting and like double acting mm-hmm. . Right. So like, he's acting like this character trying to act in another way. Yes. It's just, I always appreciate that.

So then they get up there and one of the best, to me, acting moments in the movie, and it's very subtle, but they, they go around the whole house and there's nobody there. There's no Lionel Pritchard, there's no Wilington Brothers. And then all of a sudden they look up, Merrill looks up and he sees what we now know as an alien on the roof.

Right. Right. And as he's staring at it, he starts to realize that it's not a [00:19:00] person. Right. Fir first of all, their roof is like 10, 15 feet high. Mm-hmm. , you know, it's a two story house. And then he's, he looks up there and as he's looking up, you see his eyes start to well up. Like water, like water up. I

have not noticed that.

That

is awesome. The, the moment that he, that he realizes this is not something normal like his, and I'm like, dude, that is

acting. You're right too. Because everything after that, he starts to get a little more into the idea that it could be aliens. Yes. He starts to bring the TV into the closet and watch it in there.

I've never, I've never noticed

that it's, it's very subtle, but you just see the lights start to glisten off his eyes. You know what I mean? And so I'm like, anybody can that can do that mad respect. Mm-hmm. , there's no way. No way I could, I might be able to like summon a tear on command given the right situation, but not for something as benign as no looking.

And imagining an alien

in front of me. Right. And you see like, I mean, he has to be this strong guy that came back. Yeah. And it, it's like his whole character that all [00:20:00] makes sense is that he is just, he is having all of the bravery and then he lets out. This little bit of insecurity right there when, man, that's beautiful.

I'm gonna go rewatch that .

It's a great movie. It is. So the, the backstory of his character is that he was a former minor league baseball player. We'll find this out later. But in that he you know, that it didn't work out for him in, in that, trying to make it to the majors. And now he is living with father Hess, you know, with Graham in his like adjacent you know, adjacent building there.

It's kind of like a barn I guess, that he's living in really. Right. But like, you know, a little side house on the property because Graham's wife died six months prior to this movie in kind of a a horrific accident. We find out that she got pinned by a truck and by a driver who fell asleep while he was driving.

Who will later find out is mite Shalan himself, who makes a, a cameo in his movie as he was prone to do at this time. And, and so he fell asleep while he was [00:21:00] driving and, you know, ran into her and, and pinned her against the tree. And so. Little brother Merrill comes to live with big brother Graham and his kids to try and like, just help them as they're putting the pieces back together, right.

You know, for this horrific loss. Meanwhile, Graham has given up the faith, he's given up the priesthood. And part, you know, one of the big things in the movie is, you know, him dealing with multiple levels of grief and levels of anger. And then, and then the signs that we see throughout the movie, him deciding whether or not that he's going to believe that this thing is real.

You know what I mean? Right. So like there's multiple sort of faith elements. There's like, like Christian faith elements or like, you know, religious faith elements. But then there's also like, I have to decide whether I'm going to believe these physical signs that this is possible, that this, you know, alien.

Happening. Okay. Hit me with a moment of yours. Just some, some favorite moment from the movie. I have a few that are just like quotes or just things that I noticed, but hit me with one of your favorite spots from the movie.

[00:22:00] Here is one of my favorite. Okay. Here is one of my favorite moments. It, I always, I was always so terrified.

This is the only part of the movie where I'm like, oh, that's a horror movie. Yeah. Is the Brazilian birthday party scene. Okay. Shot on. Okay. So I looked up a ton of things about this. Mite Shalan filmed it himself on a, on a, I don't know. Officer said camcorder. What did I, I guess No, no. I guess that's what it would be considered because Yeah, it's like a,

they're filming a birthday party that

feels like an eighties or nineties thing.

Okay. So it was a camcorder. They he filmed it himself and I just remember like the cgi, I know it wasn't great. And I, I learned imna shaman hates using CGI when he, when he has to. Yeah. So he, he tries to. As little as possible, which I very much appreciate. So in this, it was like that even played into it a little more that you can't see it very well.

So that scene absolutely. The Brazilian birthday party scene that they play and Merrill is watching in the closet and he's just terrified. Yeah. That is one of my favorite scenes and I was like, I wonder why that was so scary to me. And I looked it up and apparently it is, [00:23:00] there's something about it that is just terrifying to everyone.

There are movie several movie critics rated as one of the top 10 most horrifying scenes. Yeah. And I was just like, it's so. , it it like, it's nothing inherently scary other than the fact that this is the first full glimpse you get of one of the aliens. Yeah. On this camcorder, it just feels real enough and terrifying enough, like all of the acting.

And it seems genuine because everyone's at this party. Like he set it up in a way where there's gonna be a a, a camera Yeah. At, at a kid's at a kid's party. Yeah. So it all makes sense and it's, I think it's because it feels surreal, but that is one of my favorite ones. It two, I remember I was 12 when this came out.

Yeah. Okay. And I remember, I, I don't think I watched it for a few years because my parents, like, they were probably like, no, you can't do that. But I think it was probably like 15 or something. But I remember watching this in my cousin's house. I remember the room we were in, and I just went. I am absolutely horrified at whatever is happening.

And it just seems, it's [00:24:00] trivial, but somehow he made that scene one of the, like, it's burned into my, into my mind for the rest of my life as one of the scariest scenes I've ever, I've ever seen in

cinema. Yeah. And it's got a, it's got a great, like, musical cue. It's like silence, silence, silence. You know what I mean?

Which is the thing Yeah. Which is James Newton Howard did the score for this. And there's like, you know I'm kind of a music guy and so if there's like, you know, typical I mean significant music stuff, I'll usually talk about it. I don't feel super qualified to talk about scores, like cinematic orchestral scores.

Not really my thing, but I'll say he did a great job of being restrained in this movie. There's not, there's, there's not a lot of over umcor, you know what I mean? The, the main motif is like boomba, boom, boom, boom, boom. You know? And there's a lot of like Dissonance where, which is where like notes rub against each other.

They're not notes. They would go in a accord together. Right. You know what I mean? And so it kind of uses that in like high, high pitches to like just put you kind of, [00:25:00] you're uneasy. Uneasy. Yeah. But here most of the work is done by silence. And then when the alien moves, you get kind of a, you know what I mean?

Right. That sound thing that makes you kind of Yeah. Jump. But one of the cool things about that shot is if you go back and watch it, and you may, they've noticed this already, but like the alien is in plain sight. Yeah. The alien is not hiding behind. It's behind the thing. It's standing there, but it's camouflaged.

Like they have this camouflage. And so you don't, you just don't notice it. And I think that's part of the scare is. It was there and I didn't see it. Yes. You know, because when it, when it moves, you'll see the place where it was. It just isn't there anymore. And it's

the same color as like the bush as it comes from behind.

Which, which may be one of the scary parts of this is because you realize right here, oh, they can fully camouflage themselves. Yes. Like, like we are, we are in for a doozy. Yes. Like they're about to be able to fully camouflage themselves

alien invasion, but to be a doozy. It's about to be, but you see it again, you see the camouflage in play again later in the [00:26:00] basement scene when they all, you know, kind of.

Getting very toward the end of the invasion. There's a scene where they all go down to the basement of Graham's house and Rory Kin's car Morgan is down there and he gets grabbed by the alien and Yeah, you, you see the hand is there Yeah. In the first shot. But you pro I I didn't notice. No, you don't see it until it moves.

Exactly. And then you go, oh, crap, that it was there. You know, it was there the whole time. And so

and my favorite line, my favorite quote of the whole movie, I'm insane with Anger, is one of my favorites, . But for all of our many Portuguese listeners I am very sorry but it is in Brazilian Portuguese, and it doesn't say it.

I opened up the movie with captions and everything, and it just says, boy yells in Portuguese . So it's, it my favorite line of the whole movie. And this is not proper Portuguese but it's something to the effect of. Asa it's behind. And I would quote, it's behind all the time throughout, throughout [00:27:00] like my middle school and high school years, it's behind.

It is just my favorite. It is a quote that I can't even, like, I don't know it, like, I want to put a graphic out of that of the words and just offend everyone accidentally. But it is one of my favorite quotes of the whole movie. It's just that whole scene all together. It's just a masterpiece to me.

I love a good quote that

like either, you know, you don't know what it is, , and you just say what it sounds like to you. You know what I mean? Or like a quote that you realize as an adult. You, you were saying one of the words wrong or so wrong, that it was, you know what I mean? That you had a, or a lyric that you've realized later.

Mm-hmm. , you go my whole life. I've been wrong on this.

And I have been, it's behind the garage is what he says.

Yes. And yeah, that's what he says in Portuguese. In Brazilian. Portuguese. Yeah. Let's see. Okay. Another it's your favorite scene. Do you have a favorite moment? Well, yes. My favorite moment, and this is easy, this is easy to say, but my favorite moment is the, is the scene where everything kind of comes together.

Mm-hmm. , you know what I mean? So basically, like I have in my notes, this movie is basically a, a serious [00:28:00]drama episode of Seinfeld. Right? Like, if you think about it, please explain that to me. Okay. So like if you, you know how in Seinfeld they would have all these like string plots running, you know what I mean?

Like, you know, Elaine's neighbor's dog is barking and it's driving her nuts. Right? And then okay. Kenny Rogers opens across the street from Kramer's apartment and George gets a new coat and Jerry goes to the dentist . And somehow at the end of the episode, all those things culminate together. Right?

Okay. At the same time, right? And so that's kind of what you get at the end of signs. And, and it's, it unfolds in a very beautiful, kind of heartbreaking way where you have a, a flashback scene to you know, father to, to Graham's wife and him having a last conversation with her. He gets to the crash scene just in time to talk to her before she passes.

And she's, he thinks that she's kind of talking out of her mind, right. You know what I mean? And, and just neurons are firing and all this stuff. But what you find out at the end is, She's basically seeing into [00:29:00] the future. Right. You know, and and she's, she's giving him signs. She's Yes. Yeah. She's instructing him now.

He realizes what to do in this moment when this, when this alien thing has, you know, this alien has his son and like all, you know, there's an alien in the living room. And and so all, all of it comes together. Merrill's baseball stuff. His daughter's weird thing with water, which we haven't even talked about, but that's why we're talking about water, is because constantly through the whole movie, she's asking for a glass of water.

She's getting another glass of water because because Morgan took a sip and it has his amebas in it. , or it tastes old or whatever. She's, so there's water everywhere and it turns out like that's the alien's weakness. Mm-hmm. It's like acid to them, you know? And. and she says, you know, one of the great lines from this movie is Tell Merrill to swing away.

Yeah. And we find out like during a point in the movie that Merrill was a great minor league baseball player, he held home run records. He hit, hit the longest home run in minor league history. He held five minor league home [00:30:00]run records. But he also held the minor league record for strikeouts. Yeah.

Because he would just always swing as hard as he could no matter what with, with no discipline, just swing like a lumberjack is what the guy says. Right. And and so all that comes together at the very end. Even, even Morgan's asthma comes into play. Yeah. Because the alien has this like poison gas wiener that comes out of his arm and like in the moment, I didn't know what else to call it.

I don't know. Oh no. It's like a dog wiener that comes outta his arm and space poison of gas .

Oh, that's disgusting. Tell me I'm wrong though. It's so. Visually

accurate. Right. Okay. So, oh gosh, . Anyway, we'll leave that in. Sure, why not? But like

well, like so, but he, so he's having an asthma attack Yeah. With no inhaler. And so his lungs can't aspirate the poison. And so that basically saves his life. All these, so, and Merrill just starts swinging and he's got his baseball bat on the wall from his minor [00:31:00] league, you know, this home run that he hit.

So he just starts swinging away and hitting the, hitting the alien. He's hitting the stuff and then he hits it, and this water pours on the, you know, alien. And that's, that's done alien, alien over. And so that's to me, the moment, you know, obviously where you go, oh, this whole thing is building, these aren't just quirks.

This is like, you know, all these things are, you know, whatever you wanna say meant to be or, you know, pulled together. So yeah, I, that's definitely my, my Okay. A few just random things for me that I loved about the movie when I re-watched it. I love that the, there's a spot where Merrill goes into like an army oh what do you call it?

Recruitment center.

You know, are you gonna talk about the recruiter? The recruiter, yeah.

Oh, he, he's very serious and he's very kind of conspiratorial, you know,

he's the scariest, there are aliens in this movie, and he is the scariest thing of the whole, the whole film. That's really

right. His, his look is so unique and weird, which is I'm sure why he's, why he was cast.

Exactly. But he never closes his mouth. He doesn't, [00:32:00] he keeps his mouth open and he has

this weird lip thing. Yeah.

Oh, I can't explain his, his lips kind of come to a V at the bottom. Yeah. Like it's,

but he, which already makes you like, not trust that person. Yeah. Yeah. They've, they've got like a beak and you just go, I can't, I can't do anything with that.

Yeah.

So anyway, but he's the one that tells the story about Merrill, you know, he's like, oh, I know who you are, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. You've got the mite, shalan cameo as Ray Reddy, who is the guy who killed Graham's wife in the car accident. And he tells them, okay, so there's a point where they, they see each other during the movie and they avoid each other.

Right. They don't mm-hmm. , you know, whatever. But there's a point where, Ray, who is in night. Shawn LAN's character calls Graham because there's an alien in his house. And he, and, and so Graham goes over to his house and Ray basically says, I've had your phone number by my phone for six months, but I've never gotten up the nerve to call you.

But when I saw this alien and it was the first thing that I, it was instinct I just called you cuz it was right there. So they have a little conversation and Mel Gibson's acting in that scene [00:33:00] is phenomenal. Phenomenal,

right? I think it's the best acting that m not Shalan does as well. Every time I watch that scene, I go, oh, okay.

You're not necessarily an actor, but he's not an actor. Yeah, he's not an actor. But on that one, I go, this is believable. This is believable. I

guess. I don't think so. I never find him

good. Okay. So we, we, we did some research on this and apparently apparently IM not shalan, he was like, he was crying in the scene and he, he figured out he, he could do that.

They took the fifth take. Okay. Okay. The fifth take is what they did. But up until then Up until then. What is his name? The lead character? Mel. Oh, Graham. Oh, okay. Sorry. Up until then, Mel Gibson. Mm-hmm. Kept talking in, in his like Braveheart accent. Oh no. He kept talking to him and he, and he was like, Mel, I cannot , I cannot turn on tears.

So he was like, he was talking to him in just a heavy, heavy Scottish accent . And he, he couldn't get, he was talking to him in a heavy Scottish accent and he couldn't get through it. So up until then, they took the fifth take? Yeah. Apparently they did the fifth take. But we, we [00:34:00] learned that that was one of the Oh man.

One of the things

behind the scenes, I, you know, as, it's funny because as seriously as most many actors take their craft, it's weird to me that there are so many, like actor pranksters, you know what I mean? Right. And I guess they just do it to break monotony or whatever, but like, trying to mess with people while they're doing their

scenes is, I feel like that's the, that's the next level.

Like if you can go straight into acting, like be all serious and then you can go. Right into joking. I'm like, oh, you're

good. Good at this. Yeah. Yeah. And you probably have to reach a certain level. You have to be Mel Gibson, George Clooney, another famous prankster. Mm-hmm. . Yeah. Like you have to be, to be able to get away with it, and people at least can kind of grin and bear it, even if they hate you for it.

Right, right. Like, cause George Clooney does some, he's done some serious stuff. Like he's stole letterhead from the White House and wrote people letters as Bill Clinton, like, that's a federal crime. . But they're like, oh, it's like

George Clooney

Clooney, you know? But he would write, he would write his like fellow actors a letter on like White [00:35:00] House letterhead and be like, I just wanted to tell you, I thought you were great in blah, blah, blah movie and, and sign it as Bill Clinton.

And they would think for years that Bill Clinton had like, appreciated their work. So, oh my gosh. But yeah, so I guess to get away with that, you have to be at a certain level and not get arrested. No. But so anyway, in that, in that scene, in that scene Ray M Knight's cameo character tells him, Basically I fell asleep.

There was nothing else around. I've never fallen asleep behind the wheel before. And he says it's like it was meant to be. Would you tell that to a guy that you just killed

his

wife? We literally talked about that last night. I was like, why would anyone, and I know, like now I'm, I'm to the point watching movies where I go, why would they ever say that?

And I go, oh, okay. They're telling a part about the story that makes sense, right? But there's no other place to put it. Yeah. And I just went, oh, I just feel like that could have you. I would never tell, oh, I guess it was meant to be that I accidentally just. Cut your wife in half. Wreck my truck

your whole life.

Yeah. Like, yeah. [00:36:00] And so later when you get the big revelation scene with her, she says the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. She says it's like it was meant to be, you know? Which at least redeems that a little bit, but I'm like, there's no way

you're saying. So in the end, in the end, we feel like it's meant to be, she was able to save her family just by, just by, you know, I guess seeing the signs of the future Yeah.

And being able to tell Graham what to do. Yeah. But, oh, you don't say that to a, a man's dead

wife. You think he would've, you think it, they would've made more sense of it earlier if she'd also just been like, there's an alien. Like, you know what I mean? Like that one little bit of information. Right.

Probably could have saved them a little more trouble that he could have at least sooner gone, oh, she was seeing something, right? Like, right. What else did she say? Can that be helpful to us? But it was like, no, she had to leave that out as she

was Yeah. She left it, she saw just enough. Yeah. She didn't see 'em there.

They can camouflage. So Yeah, that's

true. Oh, that's true. Yeah. Okay. There's also a great kind of a, what I'll call the last supper moment. Oh, it's great that the family has together. They're like, you know, basically [00:37:00] Graham kind of internally comes to the conclusion, this could be our last night.

Mm-hmm. , they, they know there's an alien in the house. They're trying to keep it from getting. Or they're another alien trying to get to inside the house. Yes. You know? Yeah. And so they've, they're boarding up windows and all this stuff, and they, they, you know, he's like, you know what, guys? Let's have some dinner.

What do you

want? You know, because he, he fully believes this is, this is their end.

This is their, they're not gonna make it through the night. And so he just asked them like, you know, what do you want for dinner? And, and the daughter says, spaghetti, you know? And Meryll, the brother is like, you know, that's a lot of trouble.

We need to eat and get down into the basement. You know what I mean? Yeah. And he is like, I'm like, you know what, no spaghetti sounds great. You know? What about you bo? What do you, I mean Morgan, what do you, what do you want? And he's like, anything, you know? And he's like, yeah, just go for it. And so he's like, you know, French toast and mashed potatoes.

Yep. That's it. Merrill says he would like chicken teriyaki, and then Graham says, I'm gonna have a, a cheeseburger with extra bacon. Right. My first

thought is, how on earth do you have all of this in your pantry? .

[00:38:00] Okay. So this is what I was gonna ask you is give if there's an alien right now. Okay.

And you know, this is your last night with what you have in your house right now. What are you making?

Oh, no. In my house right now with your, your

current grocery order.

A very small batch of nachos. Okay. Okay. We always have black beans. Right now we have chips, so we could do some nachos. Oh, we have no cheese though.

That's a terrible nacho.

Can't go down without cheese.

No, we, we have no meat. We have a limited salad supply. We have some cookies in the freezer, but they're not good. They're not good cookies. Like every day. Like it is. It is. You know, like when you want something sweet and you're like, I'm not going out, and you're like, oh, we got those crap cookies in the freezer.

Yeah, that is, that's what we have right now. Okay. And then we have like some really old frozen falafels. So it's gonna be a bad last meal. .

It's gonna be a bad last meal. Disappointing. Okay. I think with what I have currently, I actually, I went to the [00:39:00]store yesterday, so I'm set pretty good right now.

Okay. I would, I I would probably make, honestly, you know what, I'd make the first thing, the first part, my, my appetizer would be the sausage Velveeta dip that you guys made. Christmas man he made at Christmas and it was delicious and I got the stuff for it. And then probably some nachos. Yeah.

With that

too. Cuz if we do some good things, we're gonna have to start putting out recipes on Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Here we go. This is our, so, we'll, we'll post our our nacho, our Velveeta Absolutely. Sausage dip

at

some point. Yeah. Okay. A few more notes for me. This is really interesting. The aliens have less than five minutes of total screen time.

They have less screen time than the shark from Jaws. Oh my gosh.

I, this is one of my favorite things in movies Yeah. Is where your imagination plays the enemy, the alien, the the bad guy. Yeah. Plays all of that up. Less than five minutes of screen time just made this movie for me. Yeah. I, in the [00:40:00]village, it's kind of the same thing.

I'm not gonna go too far into that, but in that is I've figured out when I can put in all of the information myself Yeah. And I create the tension in the movie. Oh man, that's my favorite thing. And he did that a lot at the beginning of

his, for sure. Yeah. And you have, and that's even counting, I mean, in the like final.

of them. He's like standing in the open, in the living room. Right. They're like, there's a whole scene of him getting fought with a

baseball bat, bat, bat. And that's gotta be like four out of the five minutes.

Exactly. That's, yeah. So you know, it's just a crazy amount of like Yeah. Like letting your, letting your imagination do the scaring for you, because a lot of times it can be because you bring your own fears into it.

You do, you do. The, the director isn't necessarily even adding, like, you don't

wanna pop all the corn. You don't, you like, as a director, you don't want to give all of the information because that immediately takes it out of it. That's when I see thriller or horror movies and they, they show the full, the full bad guy, the the monster.

Yeah. I'm just like, I'm done.

Dude, did you [00:41:00] make that up? You don't wanna pop all the

corn? No no. A friend of ours, Josh Geiselman. Okay. Now, and I'm, I love you Josh Geiselman. I am positive he got that from someone else. Okay. I just don't know who that is, but Okay. You don't wanna pop. All the corn is something I use a lot of the time.

That's brilliant. I love that so much. Yeah. Josh Geiselman, I love I again, I love you so much. He steals most of what he says and, and repurpose it. Sure. And I love that. I'm, I'm a fan of it because then I steal it again is exactly what I'm doing right now. Course. I mean, that's part of being an

informed person is that's one of the reasons that, like you read or keep up with the news.

Oh, it's

just regurgitating that information. Absolutely. You don't have to be the one that makes up everything.

I saw a quote, I saw a quote, and I'm not even gonna attribute it to the person that I saw it from, but it said, you know, you're a true artist. When you, when you, oh gosh, what was it? You know, you're becoming a true artist when you steal something.

Oh crap, I can't even think. But it was basically like, you know, you've really, you've really been dedicated to your craft when you steal something and do it without remorse, for the purposes of making your art artwork. I stand by that. [00:42:00] Beautiful. I stand by that. Okay, one more, one more note from me and then I think we're gonna actually I'm gonna ask you about the design of the movie after this.

But one more note from me that I had not caught before, that it took me however many times I've seen this movie to catch and even May, it might have even been in my research that this came out, but, okay. So there's a spot kind of early on with the, in the movie where the dog sort of turns, right?

The dog tries to attack one of the kids. And the early sign that something is wrong with the dog is that he pees on the. Right? Mm-hmm. . Okay. So they, they're like, the dog is peeing on the floor. I think he's, something's wrong. And the kids, the Graham says, okay, we'll call Dr. So-and-so their, their doctor, right?

Or his doctor. And they ask, why don't they just call a vet? Did you catch this bit? Ah,

yes. It's because

the, the, the vet is Ray, the vet is Ray, the vet is Ray ready, the guy who killed. And there's a, so when he goes to Ray's house, you see for a, a split second, an establishing shot, and the mailbox says, Ray ready, veterinary, whatever.

Right? That's the only [00:43:00] hint that's given. As far as I know that he, that he's the vet and that's why he didn't call a vet. He just called a regular doctor cuz he wasn't trying to call Ray Reddy the guy that killed his wife.

We, we watched a thing, we watched an interview with Mite Sha Milan last night, and for the beginning of his , I don't know if it's Indian culture, which he was explaining about because he was like, I became a director in my in Indian culture.

Like, I guess doctors are highly mm-hmm. esteemed. Yeah. So he played someone who was in the medical field and all of them, and he was like, oh, I guess I didn't in sciences. And we were like, yes you did. Yeah. You were a veterinarian. He was Now he considered a drug dealer in unbreakable. He considered that like pharmaceuticals.

He was pharmaceuticals, but he yeah, he was, he played a medical person. Yeah. Medical personnel in all of. At cameos at the beginning. Hey. Oh, I did not know that. He didn't mean to though. He didn't mean to. He's like, oh, I guess that was just subconscious from my Indian parents.

Oh, that's crazy. Okay, so I, I wanna get your thoughts on the design of the movie Visual Elements, the logo of the movie.

Like, I always wanna ask you what you think about, or the, the posters, you know, [00:44:00] obviously we have kind of a font thing at play here with the signs logo. Visually, what do you see that strikes you about

the movie? I was thinking about this and I was thinking about why I loved Mite Shalan and his early films.

And it's cause I, I'm like a, I need to dive more into Wes Anderson cuz I like the look of Wes Anderson. It's like the aesthetic that I love. Yeah. I attributed it to Mite Shalon being Okay. The new Wednesday series on Netflix. Okay. Mite Shalan is we. Okay. Wes Anderson. Is Enid. Okay. Her best friend, Uhhuh.

Okay. So they're the same type, they're the same type of person. Both have strong aesthetics. Uhhuh Okay. But Mite Shalan is, is the, is the, like Goth girl? Yeah. Wes Anderson. Okay. Okay. So that's why I, I was like, you know, in my, in my darkest times as a, as a suburban teenager where I was a choir boy and a struggling artist drawing anime in my notebooks, I thought for some reason I was [00:45:00] some like dark.

Right. You know, really mysterious kid. Yeah. And I think that's why I went with Mite Sha Milan as one of my favorite directors. So he always has. He always has like this, like dark, but really beautiful. Yeah. Course kind of, kind of vibe that he puts off. Mm-hmm. I, that's why I attribute it. He's like the darker Wes Anderson that's, he might not be as aesthetically pleasing as Wes Anderson.

Cause I think most of, I think most of Wes Anderson's movies are like, aesthetic first. Everything else will happen. I mean, they're still great, but everything else comes after aesthetic. Yeah. So there were a few design choices that I studied up on that he made for the actual poster. He made sure that Mel Gibson was not the main thing, and I'm looking at it right now.

Mel Gibson, they all have equal footing. He was like, there is no star in this movie. I want it to be all about sex. Cause I think Six Senses has has the, like the lead, oh man, what's his name? Yeah. It's like Bruce Willis's Forehead is photo. Exactly. Exactly. So he was like, I don't want that. I don't want this to seem like Sixth Senses.

Mm-hmm. , I'm going to make it where it. [00:46:00] Different people don't, you know, people don't like it's riding off the to coattails of Sixth Senses, but it's not anything like it. Right. So he wanted to make sure that was how it did. I also researched the logo and this is how I've taught. I feel so happy about this, but I've taught my wife Whitney, how to identify something as handwritten.

You're talking about our producer, Whitney sitting with us. He's here with us right now doing all of our filming. Okay. She I've taught her how to do this. She goes, okay, well, you can tell it's not you can tell it's a font because both of the S's are the same. And I went, oh man, baby, thank you. That's being handwritten Yes.

Bases Yes. Versus it being handwritten. So I'll always look for the same letter. Now, this is not a, this is, they're different. You can change out font letters and make 'em each different. But for the most part, I will look at the sim, the same letters and be like, okay, well what is are, are they the same?

Mm-hmm. And you can see on the first s and the last s, all of the little things are the same. Could not find the font anywhere. Okay. Couldn't see if it was a custom font. There is one that, I can't tell if it was the original font or if it's something that somebody made based, based on the font. And it's called, [00:47:00] if you ever wanna use It, it's called

Zein Zein 2.0. Okay. Okay. So you can look that up. One of, there is a, there's a very. Type of font and cover that he, I mean, he, he laid right into that genre and he went with it the early two thousands Alien invasion font. Yeah. I don't, it is always, it always looks like a, a distorted typewriter.

Yeah. Yes. All the time. Yes, every time. What it it is Roswell, stuff like that. Yeah. I, well, I'm, now that I'm thinking about that, I'm like, I don't know if that's the same, if the font is the same, but you, it is always high contrast. It is high contrast cover. It's normally like blue or green Uhhuh, or like this reddish orange, which is what's the signs cover is and what, six Senses Two and, yes, exactly.

So it's in that genre. It is, it is the same. It's like basically a variation of that typewriter, distorted font in everything. Yes. However, this one, so normally I hate that. I have a few of those on Photoshop, and I use 'em when the time is right. But what makes this one [00:48:00] perfect is the g. The G in the middle, that also works as a crop circle.

Crop Circle it. I mean, it's perfect. I love it. I absolutely love this design. At the, at the, like at the time I was like, this is the greatest design I've ever seen. , looking back like there was probably like five years ago where I was like, oh man, that's crap. And it looks like all the other alien movies.

But he was in the timeframe of all those other alien movies. Yeah. And, and, and it fit, it fit the bill. Now I look back and I go, that is a beautiful g Yeah. Like that g, the g in the middle of signs. The fact that it's right in the middle of the word that it's two, maybe three times bigger than all of the other letters.

I don't know. It, I think it is absolutely beautiful. Yeah. It is, it, I look back and I go, it matches, it matches the theme. Now, if the, I feel like the only thing they could have done a little bit different looking back is the movie is so. The movie as a whole, Bluegreen Uhhuh. You look at all the lighting of the movie, I would've made the, the title Bluegreen.

Yeah. It also, I mean, I would've made the, there's like an overplay, the poster? Yeah. Over the whole poster. That's like yellowy orange. I [00:49:00] don't know, like that makes. Blue is a common color. Yeah. So you may not want that, but if it's also cold mm-hmm. . So the warmth of them being a family, I get it. I get all of what's, what's happening with it.

But I go, that would've also brought you farther away from sixth cents, which I think is yellowy orange. Yellowy red, real orange. He was really into this at this time because the village is also yellowy orange red. Oh, very. Okay. So he just really liked these colors. Yes. He liked warm colors. But I, that would've been my biggest change.

I would not change the logo or the, or the font even now. Yeah. Which surprises me cuz I hated it for like five years ago. I wouldn't change that. What I would change is that the overlay would be bluegreen. Cuz the whole movie, you look through it and you're like, everything's blue, green, everything.

Like all of the scenes, they all have that. They all have that feel. So that is, that is one of. I, I don't know. I, I love it. I think it's beautiful. It's like the dark Wednesday. Maybe a little happier. Yeah. It's like Wednesday Adams in the new Netflix series. Just a little bit happier.

Did you, did you read the Bit, and I don't know how much I buy [00:50:00] into this, but he may have said it outright about the, the movie being sort of allegorical to the Revolutionary War?

Oh, I did not read that. Okay. So apparently, and I don't know if this is something Shalon said or if this is just, you know, something that people have read into it. But that like That he created this, not, not as though this were an allegory of the, of the Revolutionary War, but with the thematically, basically that the the Hess family would've been like the Americans you know, in that time period.

And you've got invaders coming in who would've be the British and, and so it's the Patriot and that the Yeah.

Which he did two years prior. Mil Gibson.

Right. Two years, something like that. Yeah. And so you've got this, basically this small underequipped force that then, that then you know, backs away the, the major invading force, you know what I mean?

Yes. Okay. Is what happens. And then even their their house is subtly painted red, white, and blue. Okay. Right. It's like a blue house with like red shutters, I think, and white trim or something like [00:51:00] that. And that, that, that's a nod to like Revolutionary War.

And there, there is a lamp in the scene where they, where they have the, the aluminum foil hats, which isn't aluminum fo.

Tinfoil. Yeah. It's in, which isn't in the end tinfoil. And I don't know why they decided to, like, they like spray painted something else to make it, they didn't use real. And I go, that feels like you could have just used real aluminum fo Yes. I don't know. Maybe the reflection was too heavy something.

Mm-hmm. , it could have been something. But in that, in that room where they have the hats on, he's reading the book or whatever. The, the lamp in the background is is a soldier, is the guy. Oh, is it? Yeah. From, from that era. Okay. So maybe, so I read that it was a nod to Mel Gibson in the Patriot. Oh. Which was, which was two years prior, I think.

Yes. Yeah. 99, something like that. Yeah. So, so I read that it was a nod to that, but that makes sense. Okay. If it's anything like that. Cuz there are so many, there are so many related it's so related.

Yeah. Slide up.

Okay. Let's move to a segment. We're gonna call the recast. Yeah. This is something that we are hoping to do every episode where we talk about [00:52:00] if we made this movie right now who would we cast in the, you know, the significant roles. So you wanna go first since this is your, your movie.

This is more movie?

Yes. I'll go first. Okay. I, I had some, I had some people that Whitney just did not agree with. I won't mention Whitney every 10 minutes, but she's great. This was, this was last night. And the producer, our producer did not agree with me on some of these, but I, I stand by them. I stand by them because I tried to think of the complexity of each of these roles, Uhhuh and I tried to really think about what would work.

Okay. Okay. Cuz these are hard roles to fill. Yeah. Honestly, I looked back and I was like, it takes a specific actor. Yeah. I'm gonna start from the youngest because it is also the most. . It is the, it is the biggest letdown of my group. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Bo Hess, which is Abigail Breslin. I recast as literally no one

There is no one in the world right now. There's no five year old Yeah. That could do this because she was five. Yeah. When, when they did this movie. I, I [00:53:00] like, I, I studied and I felt terrible because I was like, Hey, will you look these up? Because I don't feel right looking up girl actresses under 10, right, right now.

Yeah. I was like, I don't like this, but I, like, I looked, there is like no actress with the emotional capability of Abigail Breslin right now under maybe 18. Yeah. Like it got to it when I was like, I was like, maybe, maybe like, all I keep thinking about is the fanning's. Like I'm like, Dakota Fanning at five could have done this.

L Fanning at five could have done this. Abigail Breslin at five could have done this and maybe, maybe like a weird version of the girl who plays ru ru. , is that her name off of hunger Games? Oh gosh, I don't know. Okay. Okay. The, the little girl that dies in the Hunger Games. Okay. I was like, maybe she could have played this.

I could not think of anyone. Was no one. I'll tell you, I

said the exact same thing. Did you really? I said there's literally nobody else could have done that the way that she did. There's no one, there's like that. I know this is gonna be a job for a, a Hollywood casting [00:54:00] director. You know what I mean? They know these people, like

some unnamed little, little girl or a little boy that could've just like devoured this role.

Yeah. No one, there was no one else. Like I, I studied. Everything else came a little faster. Yeah. But that one I just went and there's no one. I fully agree. Fully agree. So we move on to the older brother Morgan Hess, who was played by Ro Rory Coln. I hate saying that name's so hard to say. Rural Jer . It, Rory Coln.

Rory Coln who played Morgan Hess. I have, have you ever seen the movie The Wilder People? Wilder people. Okay. I don't think so. There is a kid, and I'm pretty sure he is an Australian actor. Okay. That he's the only one I could think of for this one. And his name is Julian Denison. Okay. Okay. This is the kid, I'm showing you the photo right now.

Okay. We'll put up a photo of him. Maybe Julian Denison, because he is dark enough, but funny enough mm-hmm. to play this role. Okay. He is definitely a different weight class [00:55:00] than Rory Coln was, but I think that would've added a new America kind of vibe to it, where, you know, he's a little, you know Julian Denison's a bigger boy.

Yeah.

But he still buy, I mean, anybody can have asthma, so. Absolutely. So part like, but part of Rory's thing is that the asthma kind of makes him feel weak and small. You know what I mean? Small. But it doesn't have to be

that way. Right, right. So he would, he, he would've been my pick. I saw the Wilder people and he was, it's a comedy, which is funny.

That's the only thing I've really like, really seen him in and really appreciated. But I just know he has the, he's like, he's got the dark side kind of thing to him. He can be real dark and, and gloomy, but also funny, which I feel like is a good quality of this

character. Okay. For mine, for my Morgan, I went with, I had a hard time finding a Morgan too.

Just younger actors. I feel like I just know less about them, you know? Exactly. So, but I went with a guy named Noah Ju

you know him? He, he's my second place. He was my second

place, yeah. Okay. So he played, he played the son in a quiet place. Oh, absolutely.

He was my, yeah, he was, he was who I [00:56:00] picked until I went Oh, Julian Denison.

Okay. Okay.

Okay. So he's about the right age. He's a little older, I think. But he's, you know, he could play it. And he's got, he's got kind of a, he could play a little younger. I think that he really is. Absolutely. So that would be my Morgan

man. That would be great. That would be great. The next, now here is where I feel like I really, I, out of all my picks, this is the one that I go, you did good, Zeke.

Okay. You did it for Merrill Hess. Played by Joaquin Phoenix. Anthony Ramos Martinez. Oh, okay. Who is the, he's in Hamilton Uhhuh. . He is the lead. And In the heights. In the Heights, yeah. He's got the, he is like, He is top tier in terms of this, and I don't know if I picked him as the baseball, as the you for this character, for, for this character, for Meryl Hess.

You gotta have an equal amount of Don't care and pretty boy. Yeah. He's gotta be right in the middle. Okay. So Anthony Ramos Martinez. I go, I don't know if it's because he's Hispanic, that I go, you could be a baseball player. Yeah. You know? Right. You could be a really successful [00:57:00] baseball player. And you, I don't know.

He just, he gives the same vibe where he could be a little dark and he could, but he cares deeply about his family. Dude. He kills

e everything that he's in. I love him as an actor. He's Craig. Okay. I went with, I had a couple choices and I think Anthony Ramo is great. I went with Zachary Levi, oh. Who is Shazam who is in, was in Chuck.

You know, whatever. He, to me, kind of has that same quality that Joaquin Phoenix had Right. As he could be kind of jockey. But, and funny, you know what I mean? But would also be serious when it's time to get serious. Yeah. So I'm exactly Levi, I thought also funny enough that like maybe and now his name has left my brain.

Crap. That seventies show fizz. No, no, no. I can see that one. No, but you're definitely dedicated to having a non-white in this, in these roles, . I am. And I can appreciate that. What's his name? A a oh my gosh. His name starts with an A and Ashton Kutcher. Ashton Kutcher. I thought Ashton Kutcher in, in, you forgot Ashton Ku Kutcher's name.

I [00:58:00] don't know how, I haven't looked on my wall. But like, no. Do you really, to this day? No. Okay. In my bedroom. That

was so, it was so, it was so believable that I went, Ashton Kutcher's on your wall. . I was like, which Ashton? Ashton

Kutcher. Right. Are we talking about the same? Yeah. I thought interesting. He could've, he could've, now that he's a little older, you know, could've, could've done that and could, could've brought, come to the same thing.

Yeah, I could see it. To me, I want Zachary Levi, I love Zachary Levi. Okay,

so this is my. This is the one that I feel will be a hot take. Okay. Okay. This is my hot take. All right. Maybe not. Maybe it's gonna be like, oh yeah. Obvious pick. It was a hot take from our producer Whitney. Okay. Alright. She goes I tried, I tried to think this person has to have the emotional range, Uhhuh to be, to act like they are a father out of the faith.

Uhhuh a great family man, and is about to, you know, a little gritty, but has a funny vibe to them. Yeah. There's not many I feel like who could have done that better than Mel Gibson. [00:59:00] Okay. So for Graham. Yeah. He is fantastic. He was, he was. And there's some roles that I've been like, this isn't your best, but I think he was fantastic in this.

So for Graham Hess or Mel Gibson, I put, okay. One more thing. It's also the, it's also the age gap between Graham and Merrill, which is 19 year age gap in real life. I don't think it's supposed to be portrayed as that in the movie. Yeah. But there's a 19 year age gap. So Anthony Ramos Martinez is a good deal, younger.

Then Robert Downey Jr.

Wow.

Okay. Is that a hot take for you? You're like, oh, I can see it. Robert Downey Jr. Can be. So he's typically pretty comical. Yeah. But Mel Gibson can, he has that, like Mel Gibson's a pretty good comedic person Oh, for sure. In, in, in a few movies. So I think that Robert Downey Jr. Has the emotional range.

The age. Yeah. And he has that like darkness in him. Yeah. Where he could, where he could be like, I was a father, I was a minister Yeah. Of some sort. And I have walked away from that out of just complete heartbreak.

Yeah, for sure. I he [01:00:00] could crush it. I would've never thought about him for it. I didn't even Yeah.

But I, but he could definitely, he could definitely pull it off. And I think that would be different. I have to, I have to, I would have to rewire my brain a little bit. And I don't know why. I don't, I don't, there's something about, and it's probably just the movies that he's done, but there's something about Mel Gibson to me that plays kind of strong.

Mm-hmm. , you know, and not necessarily, even though Robert Downer Jr. Was Iron Man. Right. But it was like you know, I, but anyway, but yeah, I think that's I think that's a really, that's interesting choice. I'll say, I'll call it a hot take. That's pretty good. Hot take. Robert Downey mine is not as hot and nor as sexy as Robert Downey, Jr.

But I went with Patrick Wilson. You know Patrick Wilson? What's he on? He was in the, the movie version of Phantom the Opera. He was in Watchman. He was in the Alamo. He played ORM in Aquaman, like, what's his name? Patrick what? Patrick Wilson. It's not the sexiest name, but I thought as an actor he could pull it off really

well.

[01:01:00] Okay. Okay. He's got that darkness to him. I see

that and he's got that sort of, I just felt like he could hit all those, kind of, all the, all the notes that, that Mel Gibson hit. I don't, I'm not sure it'd

be, yeah, it'd be less of a stretch. For the Robert Downey Jr. It would be less of a stretch for Patrick Wilson compared to Robert Downey

Jr.

Yeah. He seems more like the same type of character. Yeah, I see that. But obviously, yeah. Robert Downey could obviously pull it off and be amazing on

it. I feel like, I feel like they casted this so well. Oh yeah. Like the original signs. I just, that's why when I look at these things, I go. This is, feels like me picking second place.

It feels like in everything. It feels like I'm picking second place to recast it. Sure. It doesn't feel like I improved anything. I just feel like in current time, yeah, this is who could

do it. Because we are, we're in the age of the remake anyway, right? This is 20 years old. It's almost right. You know what I mean?

Oh.

And I don't think MNA shaman would do it, but I did have a little fear. I was like, oh, please don't do that. , please don't recast that. Please don't redo signs.

Started remaking all his like sixth cents. You know what I mean? Right. For the next [01:02:00] generation. And it would just be awful. Like,

oh, it would be so bad.

And then you can't remake things that have. Such huge twist. Yeah. I mean, I guess you can, you have to make a new twist. You,

you would have to, the expected twist has to change, and then you have to, you know, whatever. You have to, you'd have to, if you were to remake specifically the sixth sense, anything that has a big twist That's right.

At the very end, you would have to subvert that from the very beginning. Right, right. You would have to do something at the very beginning that makes it clear that what you think is gonna happen is not gonna happen. And then Absolutely, you spend the rest of the movie in suspense then, but only once you find out that that's not gonna happen.

You know what I mean? That Oh, it's not that they've been dead the whole time. You know, it's, then you can, then you can have fun watching the rest of the movie.

Absolutely. Absolutely. You have to like, you have to not debunk it, but you just have to throw it out in the beginning and be like, oh, this is gonna be a different movie.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I have, I have one just a, maybe not a, I mean, it is a fact, but all of every member of the Hess family, except for Mel Gibson, have in real life actor siblings. So [01:03:00] Breslin Joaquin Phoenix had River Phoenix course. Yeah. And and of course col there's whole, the whole Col family.

Yeah. So, so it's the whole Col family, everyone. But Mel Gibson. And what I, one of the random facts that I read on this is that, and now this makes sense, and this is specifically why I didn't choose him for Merrill Hess is because it was Merrill Hess. Joaquin Phoenix was originally supposed to be played by oh, come on.

The Hulk, what's his, Am I kidding? No, no. The Oh, the new Hulk .

Why did I, out of all the Lou, RNO, , oh

my gosh. No. What's, what's

his

name? Yeah. You know, everybody knows he's the haw. It's Oh, mark Ruff.

Mark Ruff. Thank you. You for Whitney? Yes. Obviously Mark Ruffalo. So that would've made sense. Yeah. And that's specifically why didn't treat him as the recast.

Cause I was like, oh, that makes sense. Like that kind of, not too attractive, but like gruff kind of guy. Yeah. It would've made sense. But he, he had a brain tumor. He was like, it was what? He had a brain tumor that [01:04:00] ended up being benign. Okay. Okay. So that is why he did not play that role. Wow. And then they, they brought in Joaquin Phoenix, which I'm just really, I love Mark Ruffalo, and I like him in rolls like this more than, I like him in Marvel movies.

He's great in Marvel movies, but I like him more in rolls like this. But I'm super happy. It was Joaquin Phoenix. Yeah. I, I feel like it was a slightly better pick.

He's great. Okay, so I think unless you have something else that's gonna conclude our coverage of the movie, that's good. We're gonna move on to some food stuff.

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I hope if I wasn't able to grab that name by the time we start, then it'll be something else and I'll let you know. Let's take a quick break and then we're gonna come back and taste test some waters. Slide up snack bar. All right, so season one episode one of Cinema Snack Bar. We've talked about the movie.

Now we're gonna talk about the food element from the movie. Today we're gonna talk about Bo Abigail Breslin's character's obsession with water. And so what we're gonna do today is we're gonna blind taste test some waters. This is gonna be done in three parts, okay? Okay. And the last part is only for you.

The last part, I already, I already know the outcome, but the, but round one is we're gonna taste test four. Just plain waters. Okay, so I've got just a gas station purified water. I've got Dasani, which is the Coca-Cola branded water. And I've got Aquafina, which is the Pepsi competitor. [01:06:00] Pepsi Water, Aquafina.

I did not know Aquafina was the Pepsi Water. Yeah.

And I've got Deer Park. I don't know who makes Deer Park, but here's Nestle Deer

Park. Is it not? No. Nestle makes their own, right? Nestle makes their own water. Yeah. So I consider

those very similar Blue Triton brands. Stand for Connecticut. There we go. I have no idea.

Thanks Connecticut. Proudly sourced in Florida. All right. So we're gonna blind taste test these. I'll, I'll, I'll let you go first. I'll pour you taste and you're gonna tell me round one, is it Dasani? Aquafina Gas station Water or Deer Park? Oh, man. Okay. All right. So start with part one. I'm gonna go ahead and like uncap 'em all.

Okay. Are we doing this one at the beginning of the year because you know, new Year's resolutions? New Year's? It is . Now we, this is the only calorie, calorie list, thing that we can do. Yeah,

everybody's off soda right now. It's like,

Okay. I I'm completely, I am complete. I'm, I'm closing my eyes cause I, I like a good, I like a Yeah.

Station water is darn near impossible to open. It's also [01:07:00] the cheapest bottle you can tell cuz it leans over like the tower of Piza. .

It does. It's never settled. It's never settled. Like you can't just like set it down. It's gotta be in a couple's

when, you know, a water is super cheap is when the plastic at the bottom is so thin that it won't even stand up.

Right, right. Okay. I've got, I've got my eyes closed right now cause I don't know if I need to, but what would've been super cruel is if you would've poured carbonated water into this. And I just like chugged

it. Not expected. Yes, absolutely. Okay. All right. So here's what we're gonna do. Okay. I'm gonna, I'm gonna pour and then you're gonna tell me and maybe producer Whitney can keep track of, of your guesses here.

I don't know. Okay. But you're gonna tell me what brand you think it is and then I want you to try and mentally keep track of how you can rank them. Oh, oh yeah. Absolutely.

If you can keep track of, of I love ranking

systems. All right. So here we go. I've even done a little shell game with the bottles while we've been talking, so you didn't think you have it memorized or whatever.

Oh, okay. Okay. All right. So I'm gonna pour you a sip of water number one.

Okay. Okay. So rating system and if I think it is [01:08:00] Aquafina, Dasani deer Park, Uhhuh or gas station. Or gas station, yeah. So you tell me what you think.

That is definitely a spring water. Okay. Okay. So it is either gas station or Deer Park. Okay. You know the crispness of Aquafina. Okay. And Dasani is not in there. Okay. Lemme try it one more time. Crispness. All right. It , you know, the wine tasters. Yep, for sure. This is nowadays smart podcast, I would say out of the.

First off, I love springwater. Used to hate it. You know that milky like thick water taste. . I hated it. I hated it for so long. Now I'm actually a fan. Okay. So I would say my best guess is that his deer park and I would say 7.5 out. I was gonna

say just, you'll just rank 'em against each other. Okay. At the bottom.

What you like the best. So that's, you don't have

to, I'll keep my own rating to myself. Cause that's important to me. Okay. Okay. All Deer Park is what I'm thinking. Deer Park is number one. All right. Close. Close the eyes. Okay. I'm [01:09:00] shielded. I'm using like, horse shield blinders with my hands. All right. Here we go.

Number two. Okay.

Okay. Oh, let me show, let me show it to the

camera for folks on video. Fully closed.

Fully closed. Okay. There we go. Bring it back. All right. Oh, here y'all put it in your hands. Sorry. We're flying blind here. All right,

go for it. Okay. Second water. Need good suspenseful music for this? That's absolutely Aquafina.

Okay. That is Aquafina Aquafina. All right. Did you finish it? What if it's not No. Here, finish. I was so bold. Finish it all so I can give you Oh yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Sorry. I'll try to pour less. I'll a pee break after this. No, no, no. That was fine. That was a good amount of water.

Single sip. Okay. All right.

Let's go number three. I was so bold. If that wasn't Aquafina number

three coming at you. All right. Then I poured, I think I poured less. If you need a second sip, we'll go second sip. Okay. Okay. Let me show the camera real quick. Yep. Blinders. Okay.

Oh, no, . That is absolutely Aquafina.

That is absolutely that. As well as this is [01:10:00] a, he's throwing a wrench in the in the gears. This is an another Aquafina. No, I don't, I don't know. Give me, I, let me try again. My thought is that is gas

station water. Okay. All right. All right. Then number four coming in.

Okay. This would leave, if this doesn't taste like Dasani, I'm wrong. Okay. You know? Yeah, for sure. I have

wrong of choices. Elimination. Yeah. All right. Here we go. Right here. Okay.

Let me show this to the camera. Yeah. Eyes still closed, right?

There we go. Okay. Okay. And I guess I'll have to tell our audio friends, well, our audio friends will find out when you do, whether,

whether or not you're, that's Dasani.

I'm proud of it. All

right. Alright. So starting from the top. , you got them all wrong. No, . Oh, man. Starting from the top, your, your very first was Aquafina. Oh, it's thick, thicker than I remember. Okay. Aquafina was first second. You guessed it was Deer Park. Second was Deer Park. [01:11:00] Oh no, the third which you declared absolutely.

Aquafina was . Gas station. Gas station. And then the last was Dasani. Oh, no, no, no. Is the, did I flip it the third, I'm sorry. The third was Dasani and then the fourth was.

Gas station. Wow. I'm terrible at this. And as a, as a once vegan, I just feel like I should know water. I don't know why , but I failed you all.

I should have a good grip on this. I failed you

all. All right, my turn. I'll let you pour, I'm gonna keep the eyes closed. You can flash, flash the camera if you want

to. Oh, is that what kind of

podcast we are on? Yeah. I mean, hey, send him a snack bar after dark.

Okay. This is our first one, right? I'm, yeah, that's enough.

Everyone you went with and you went with deep analysis at first you were like, this is a spring water. This is

like, it wasn't either,

it wasn't a spring water. I did a little research on how to tell, like Spring water, mineral water, and even like in carbonated waters, how to tell, like tonic from[01:12:00] like club soda from, you know, all this stuff.

It's pretty interesting actually. There's some of it that's naturally carbonated. What And that, yeah. So like so like carbonated mineral water Okay. Is, is natural. The carbon, they carbonate it. Mm-hmm. , the carbonation comes from, I'm doing all this with my eyes closed. The, the carbonation comes from, can I open my

eyes?

Yes. Yeah, you can. Okay. I'll put everything back. The, the

carbonation from certain brands, right? It comes from a natural source and it's the salt and minerals in the water that carbonate it and make it like effervescent.

I won't never drink that the same

anymore. So that's like carbonated mineral water.

That's my go-to. It's exactly as it's found. It's filtered natural. It's

nothing. So it's like, so what, what is a carbonated mineral water? Which, what do I drink? Is it

Perrier? So you've like that? Yeah. Perrier. It's my go-to and like it's Pellegrino. They're

not taking mineral water and carbonating it and they put, which is exactly what I thought it was.

No,

so now, so the, the alternative would be like club soda. So [01:13:00] club soda is carbonated water that they add the like minerals. Oh, so it tastes similar, but it's not natural, but it has the kind of the same, kind of the same, you know taste and my favorite word mouth feel as as regular mineral water.

And then there's just like straight up sparkling water, which is just all fake. Like it's, we do at home with like soda streams. Absolutely. That. One of my favorite things, whatever, you know, water might be filtered, might be, you know, purified or whatever, and then just added carbonation, but no added minerals.

But you can buy, like, you can go on Amazon and buy a bottle of minerals to like mineral drops, to put in your water to make it like you know, Pellegrino or, or whatever.

I am learning so much. I did not know. I did not know. Now my gas station pick, I know that it is all natural. It feels better. That's right.

It's like, it feels better. But also I go, why, why are you carbonated? Cause of minerals, . It's so weird. Why are they making you do this?

It seems unthinkable. Okay. All right. I'm going through the TAY [01:14:00] test. All right. Number

four. So much. No, you can open your eyes now. Oh, that's true. Yeah, because I, I've

everything back.

Dasani, Aquafina gas station or Deer Park. Deer Park. Okay. Alright. I'm, I have a, a hopeful outcome for this. Okay. Just, I hope to be right, you know,

but also no one, no one typically hopes to be wrong. Did you rank your favorites? Yes. Not based on the taste test. I ranked my favorites based on what I pick at a gas station though.

Okay. Hmm. Okay. All right. I, I, I think interesting. I think this is, I'm gonna say that's aqua Aquafina. Okay. Aquafina aqua that extra syllable in there.

Oh, we should had Aquafina as a guest on this podcast. . That would've been great, man. She's great funding though, you know? Yeah. Okay. Number two. All right.

Number two. Tell me when. Let's do, gimme just a second. Yep. This is, this is what number two is. Okay. Okay. Okay. You can open your eyes. It's all back.

I feel like I can

taste better with [01:15:00] my

eyes closed. Mm. Okay. Remove another sense. And then that one,

I'm not really liking this one. Okay. Which normally I would reserve for Aquafina.

But you've already picked

Aquafina, but I've already picked Aquafina. I'm gonna say this is a gas station. I'm gonna say this Is that generic gas station

water.

Okay, so this one you liked lesser, I liked less. Yeah. So, so far that's on the bottom. But you thought the first one was Aquafina and you don't like Aquafina? First thought

was Aquafina and I thought it was

fine. You don't necessarily like either of the picks that have happened so far?

Not really, no. Okay.

I'm not a big, just straight up water drinker though. I've I'm closed. I've learned to love carbonated water. You guys talk, you taught me that,

man. We love some carbonated water. This is pick, I

finally got on the, I finally got on the, like LaCroix train, the, you know, the flavored sparkling water and then now I'm just straight up just sparkling water.

Okay. It is, yeah, you can, once you can get past that, it's nice, you know, just a little spice to the water.

Just a little spice. All right, so number three. This is a lot good. . Okay. [01:16:00] I don't wanna drink this much water. Okay. All right. That's gotta be Dasani. That tastes like salt.

Okay, so you have guessed Aquafina gas station, Dasani.

I don't like bottled water. . That's okay. That's okay. I like tap water. All right. I forgot which one I hadn't picked. Cause I was trying to memorize your picks. This is why Producer Whitney's here. Yeah. She, she is pointing to what's happening. Keeping us on track. Here's our fourth pick. Okay. Okay. I'll pour a little less this time.

This is our fourth and final

one, which means that I, I have to choose Deer Park here. That's my

only, does, does this settle as Deer Park to you?

I think so because it's pleasant and Deer Park is the one, the only one of those that I like. Okay. So I'm gonna say

Deer Park. Okay. So, all right. See how we do. You got zero, correct. Crap. We are really bad. Dang it. I'm guessing [01:17:00] waters. In order. You thought Dasani was Aquafina. Okay. You disliked Aquafina?

Yeah. Okay. So you, you were almost right on that when you were So it was still at the bottom of my list. Yes. So Aquafina you thought was gas station. Okay. Then the third was Deer Park. And you thought it was, I thought it was Dasani. Wow. Yeah. Oh man. Baffled me too. Pallet. Pallet be changing. And then it was gas station water, which you thought, thought part, which was your part?

Which was good. Oh, wow.

Okay. Okay. Good for you. Circle K, purified

water. Exactly. It is circle Wow. Come through. I always, my pick every time at the gas station. I never pick Dasani or Aquafina. I don't like no added, I don't like added sodium. I'm just like, oh, I. Make my wa water a little salty, you know, I'm gonna like it.

And then you add a little flavor. Exactly. So they know what they're doing. But I, my first pick every time at a gas station is some kind of spring water. Okay. Like, like deer park. Well, okay. That's not true. My first and foremost is 100% sparkling water of [01:18:00] any kind, flavored or unflavored no sugar. That's what I go for.

That's my gas station pick. Yeah. But Deer Park is next after that. So if you like a Podunk town Yeah. And they've never heard of sparkling water. Like you stop there just because, and you're like, where is their aha? Where is their, wait, you know, the, the sparkling water. Aha. Where is their aha? Or where is their Yeah, bubbly.

Bubbly. Yeah. And then you just go, oh, this gas station is ran by somebody's cousin. Right. This is, then I picked Deer Park.

That's my go-to. And everybody, anybody with aunts and uncles is somebody's cousin. Right. Like . Yeah. That doesn't really imply anything about you. You're right.

But their cousin's wearing overalls and they have a ponytail, you know, a lower ponytail for sure.

And, and a lot of tobacco upfront. And you go, they just go who in their right mind. Yeah. It won't spark on water. So that is so then Deer Park

is my choice. All right, so that's round one. Okay. Okay. That's round one of three, round two. Then we're going with these next level waters. Okay. We have two.

I never [01:19:00] pick the next level

waters.

I don't either. I don't, I don't feel, I don't sense that I get any great thing out of like the added whatever or taken away whatever. I don't even know what the difference is. Okay. But so what we've got then, now is we've got Smartwater which I believe is a Coca-Cola venture, right? It says glass glass as though that's the brand name, but it's made by Coca-Cola.

I'm almost positive. I think so too. . And then we're going with the Body Armor Sport water Proprietary electrolyte formula. Okay, but does this Alka, like a little bit of a taste? This is alkaline water pH nine. I guess we'll find out. I don't

really know. So Alkaline's supposed to be good. This is the, let me tell you something people, okay.

let me inform you. Okay. Normally springwater is naturally alkaline, so you don't have to, okay. If I'm so wrong, just, you know, tell me. But I believe this, we're not experts whole wholeheartedly. The it is naturally alkaline. Like, I mean, it's not like that one is like positively alkaline to the, to the farthest end.

Okay. It's like it's on a spectrum uhhuh, but [01:20:00] you're naturally alkaline with with water like that. All other waters are like acidic. Okay. Yeah. So like if you pick Dasani and things like that, you're gonna get some acidity to your water. You don't have to pick alkaline water if you pick spring water.

So you know just a little thing for you. Yes. You just save a couple

bucks. Spring water is like all natural. It's filtered naturally. Mm-hmm. , there's nothing like mechanical about the spring water process. This sounds like

we're almost healthy. Yeah. not at all. It's not

happening. Anybody watching on video, like, this guy only drinks Mountain Dew.

Hey would trust us with water? Like, I can't even think of anything. The comparison wouldn't be good enough. But you look at us and you go, do they drink water?

All right, so the difference in the difference in round one and round two is these bottles have urethras. Okay? These waters come from. From a little hole and not just a, not just where the cap has gone off.

Okay. Correct. Like they, like, they look like they're for people who play sports. You

can. Exactly. It's you pick it up after a play and you do the squirt thing. Right. It doesn't,

[01:21:00] the bottle doesn't have to go in your mouth. Like for some reason they assume you're gonna share this with multiple athletes and you're just gonna like throw it in your mouth.

Right.

Like you're out with your tennis bros and you gotta just share the one bottle of water tennis bros. Here's, are there tennis bros? I don't know. All right. So here we go. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, actually, I'm gonna blind grab, I don't even know which one of these I'm holding right now. So you are also blindfold I cannot influence.

Or, or that You have no idea. Okay. Yeah. Cause there's only two. There's only two for this one. So now I, here's what I have. Okay. Show the camera. All right. Okay. Squirt a little bit of this in there for you. Okay. All, all. There you go. Okay. You can open eyes. Oh, okay. Yes. All right. So is this smart water or is this body armor?

Has Morgan's amebas in it. Okay. for sure, for sure. Morgan spits in each one of these. This one is, I think I would not bet my life on it, but I'd go pretty far as to [01:22:00] say this is Smartwater.

Okay. Okay. I thought you were gonna say because of the amebas in it, that, that it was

man, that've been better.

Okay. So that would've been better. Ooh. Body armor. That makes, that makes more sense with Amebas in it. But that yeah, I think that's Smartwater. Okay. That's what I'm, so the next one in my calculations has to be body armor, correct. Alkaline plus nine. All right.

Here we go. Squirt ass. Alright. There, go.

Okay guys, are guys gonna open.

To be? No. Do you? Okay. I was, I was gonna ask, do you feel confident or do you

regret It's got like a spice to it. . It's like if you've only tasted water, then like, you're, it's like your, your your your taste buds are like gripping for something. Yeah. and the back of that one tasted like it's got something in, lemme try it again.

They're like, it's like if I was to immediately taste some like, heavy-duty Indian food after this, my tongue would die. Yeah. Just because I'm like, gr I'm like trying your tongue is like, please, I'm grasping at straws trying to, [01:23:00]grasping for straws, trying to see like where we're, what do we taste in here?

Let's try one more time.

I would say that's, I would say it's

body armor. I'll let you change. If you wanna change, you can

make a final decision. I think it's body armor because it is the one I'm least. Familiar with. Okay. And that one had the most specific, specific, specific taste. Okay. That one had the most specific taste. All right, so

you're saying the first one was Smartwater.

Second was body armor. Those are both incorrect. What wrong? Once again?

Oh, spicy water

from our pallets. Smartwater. Our pallets are untrained and they're proving it. Okay.

So no, I might have ruined it for you if you taste

a little spice. I, well, all right. I, we'll see. I don't know. Who knows? I'm not gonna blind see how we do.

I'm gonna try to prove So, so far, if this was a competition, nobody is winning.

We, we, we have 100% failed. We have

accumulated a total of zero

points. Awesome. This Rob is gonna win it, or we are gonna be, it's gonna be very [01:24:00] clear that we've never had water here.

Here we go. I'm re I'm resetting my eyes and everything.

I'm okay going for it. Total. Should we have done like vanilla ice cream or ginger between Oh, in the middle, between each one to like,

what is it called? What do you do in the middle? You say your palate, is it ginger in the middle of it? What's

the green stuff? Yeah, ginger. No, ginger's like the, the, the, the pink

colored, you know.

But what is, what do you, what is the palate

cleanser? Yeah. Ginger or vanilla ice cream. Is there something else? There's another just out loud. Sure. No, no.

Sh Oh yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's what they did. Okay. But I'm thinking, man, good, good for that. But I'm thinking like in the middle of sushi, what is that?

Palate Cleanser. Is it ginger? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not, it's not wasabi. No. Mm-hmm. Oh, you don't palate cleanse with the sabi. You add wasabi for flavor. Yeah. No. Yeah. Wasabi. Fine. I never add either of those to my sushi. Okay. So here we go. Missing out. This is the first pick. And I love ginger. I should stop.

It's like one of those things as a child where you go, I'm not gonna like that. So you never

try it. I hate the ginger. I think it tastes like soap, but it, but it's supposed to reset your taste buds a

pate. Okay, so [01:25:00] here is your first one. Okay. All

right. can't. All right. Here we go. There we go. This is your first one.

All right. Cheers. See, I'm thinking about, I'm on the, I'm out on the tennis court. Yeah. You know,

are only place This makes sense.

You need more, I don't know this. No, this just taste like water to me. I'm gonna say, I'll say this is smart water. Okay. I think it's smart water. It tastes like normal enough to me.

I'm gonna call it smart

water. Okay. Okay. So no

alkaline in there whatsoever. I don't, I'm not tasting the alkaline single line

out. No, not a bit. Let, that was terrible. I'm sorry everyone. This. Okay. So this second one, this is, set it right in your hand. Okay. Thank you. All

right. So this by default has to be body armor, has to be body armor.

I reserve the right to flip flop. It shocked my tooth. Oh gosh.

Mine only does that when it's cold. Okay. Yeah, that's, yes, it does it a lot.

Huh? [01:26:00] Huh? Why do you say, huh?

I Because it does taste different from the other, a little bit. I, it, I'm gonna guess I'm, I'm gonna stick with it. I think that's body armor. Okay. All right.

How'd I do? 100% wrong. Dang it. . I thought I had failed right then because I told you that Smartwater had the spiciest, it had the, like, the different Uhhuh, , Smartwater out of all of the waters people, Smartwater has the most flavor, and I don't know why that is.

Wow. I don't want to know it. But Smartwater has that little bit of

difference. Okay. So I think maybe this was just kind of based on my expectation. So when I taste things, I taste a lot in terms of audio. Okay. Like, so I taste, this tastes tr or this tastes basey . And so spring water tastes basey. So to me, this tasted basey.

Okay. And I expected it. Okay. Or, or, well, no, I guess this tasted bassy. Yeah, Smartwater tasted like to taste bassy. This tasted morere, which maybe is what you were calling spicy. Yes.

You know what I mean? Yeah. It has a little at the end, you know. I don't know how to explain. It's

so funny. Okay. All right.

So we're zero for everything at this [01:27:00] point. So that means we're going around three. And this, this will be for all the marbles. If, if Zeke can do. I'm gonna bring out a secret weapon. I'm gonna have you close your eyes in a second. I'm gonna bring out, gosh, I'm gonna bring out a single carbonated water.

Okay. Okay. And if you can guess, I'll give you a

range. I'll give, are you going, am I supposed to guess the flavor

or No, not the flavor. It's unflavored. Okay. Okay. Okay. But if you can guess the brand, then you have, you have won the whatever prize. This is everything I've been building up to. Okay. So I, so I'll be back.

So eyes are closed. This is cold. It adds a slight disadvantage to me. I,

I was gonna say, does it make it harder for you?

It, it has to, right? Because it's like, it's like if you let ice cream sit for just a second and then you go, man,

there's the sugar part of it. Yeah. I think you can more purely taste.

Actually I'm gonna pull it under the table. Cause can you hand me your cup to your left? Oh, . So you can open your eyes. Cuz I've, I've hidden the

water. Oh, okay. Good. Good, good, good. All. Okay. Okay. Am I cut? Yeah. I handed you yours. All right.

So I'm gonna show the camera what we're working with here. Okay.

Unflavored. This is a, do I need to guess if it's [01:28:00] mineral, unflavored? No, you don't have to guess if it's mineral. Okay. See if you can

guess. Okay. Now that does give me a slight disadvantage because I know it has a cap. No, no, no. It's just a leader. It's a leader. Oh, okay. Panel. Okay. I thought you like opened something.

I was like, okay, that's a different thing. If it has a cap or it has a, you know. Oh, yeah.

So, okay. Okay. All right. Take a guess here.

Okay. All right. Is this Perrier Topo Chico or Pellegrino?

Okay. There it is. Oh, sorry. I know Pellegrino the least. Oh, I'm gonna open my eyes now. Okay. Okay. Mm-hmm. , open them away just in case. So, Topo, Chico. Pellegrino, or per Perrier? Yeah,

that is, oh man. I'm, I'm soak, I'm just gonna stick with my gun's confidence cuz I'd rather be wrong. I'm very confident. Yeah. It's not per.[01:29:00]

I don't, I'm basing all of this off the fact that I just don't know what is the third one? It's not to pechi say Pellegrino. I don't drink Pellegrino very often, so lemme

one more time. It's Pellegrino sounds pretty fancy. I don't know if it is. I think it's Topo Chico. It. It's Topo Chico.

Oh man. Zeke wins

the prize world.

Everything.

Oh, Topo Chico. Topo Chico's. Delicious. And I'm gonna pour something for myself. I love Topo Chico. Yeah. Split that out

here. This is a, this is a mineral water for everybody. I know you're asking out there. Yeah. So this is a mineral. They're like, please tell us.

Is it mineral?

It's got . It's got the extra it's got the extra goodness.

Is this now, is this, so this mineral water naturally carbonated,

this is straight out the

ground or whatever, and you is, this is the reason you know this because you researched it for this podcast.

I had researched it once before, but I, I boned up on it before today so that I could yeah. Enlighten the people a little bit.

Have you ever had

[01:30:00] great fruit to Chico? Yes. It's fantastic. Oh my gosh. If you have it, pop signs right now. Run out to your local fancy gas station and get some grapefruit. Man, that is

delicious. Apu, Chico, Monterey, Mexico. Bottled at the source.

Let's go. My sister lives out in New Mexico and we had to Chico all week when we went there, and that was the first time I'd ever had, so I had like the last, the, within the last year and a half, first time I've ever had Topo Chico and man changed my life and I like the logo.

That is an important part of me

picking something. All right. Today's podcast is brought to you by Topo Chico. Monterey's Finest mineral water bottled at the source since 1895. It is not, but hey, Topo Chico, if you're listening, Mr. Chico. If you are listening we would like, we would like to be you know, feel free to hop on the, hop on this train early.

Let's do this. Topo Chico presents Cinema Snack Bar . That's gonna do it for episode one. Yeah. Of Cinema Snack Bar, the [01:31:00] podcast, the show soon to be the movie. We're hoping M Night Shalon directing.

No written, produced, and directed by Mite

Shalon. That's right. Yeah. So alright. We made it through. We'll see.

I hope you guys enjoyed let us know. We need, so once a month we're doing listener submissions. Next week will be my pick. Then we'll do an AFI Top 100 movie, and then we're gonna do a listener pick. So go ahead and start sending us submissions so that we can be, be, you know, have our ears up and for the voice of the people and find out the, the listener pick that we need to do.

And let us know what food do you wanna try. If you have a specific, like I want you to try the whatever from this specific movie. Absolutely. We'll, we'll take that all into, all into consideration. We hope you guys have enjoyed it. Send us a shout out. Follow us on Instagram at Cinema Snack Bar. You can send us a message.

You can either send us a DM on Instagram or you can send us a message or a voice message@cinemasnackbar.com. We wish you guys all the best. Until next week. I'm Rob. And I'm

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